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 Posted 07/20/2019  12:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nazarene to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I came across this toned 1893 Columbian Exped. half on eBay and became enamored with it and bought it. It is raw (which I usually shy away from on eBay,) but I thought the toning looked legitimate as an album toned coin. Other than the toning (which is the "point" of this particular coin,) there certainly wouldn't be any premium via its condition. Any thoughts as to grade. Would you encapsulate given the toning? Other thoughts?

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 Posted 07/20/2019  02:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU50'ish and probably cleaned at one time.

I don't know if the toning is original or not.
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 Posted 07/20/2019  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nazarene to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Listed as having been kept in a Wayte Raymond album. I have no 1st hand experience with coins toned in those albums, but pictures loom similar-ish to this coin. I do not have it in hand yet. If it's a stinker, then it is probably back to only slabbed coins from eBay for me.

Also, I didn't exactly break the bank on it. I paid around $23 shipped.
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 Posted 07/20/2019  04:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you slab it I recommend ANACS. Has nice eye appeal.
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 Posted 07/20/2019  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse to my eye reveals strong evidence of a prior cleaning. I agree with likely AU-Details Cleaned.

Concur the toning is attractive - I can't tell if it is natural.

Submission costs to any TPG would be more than the value of this coin.
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 Posted 07/20/2019  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaned and now toned
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 Posted 07/20/2019  08:37 am  Show Profile   Check Darth Morgan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with AU details - cleaned. It appears to have secondary album toning. I imagine this would be a stunner without that unfortunate cleaning.
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 Posted 07/20/2019  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not even sure it would make AU.
I'm leaning towards XF.
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 Posted 07/20/2019  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, the wear is evident. Not worth submitting.
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 Posted 07/20/2019  10:45 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU Details Cleaned, and ANACS
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 Posted 07/21/2019  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with others...the coin appears to have been improperly cleaned at some point and the toning is not original.

I would not recommend spending the money to have the coin graded.


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 Posted 07/21/2019  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XF details, harshly cleaned and retoned. Not worth submitting, hope you didn't pay much for it.
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 Posted 07/22/2019  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cyberman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I picked up one of these 1893 Columbian Expedition awhile back at the LCS in a bin of junk WLHs It had nice tone colors to it, so I added it to the rest of the stack of WLHs I bought for $5.51 each. Got home and looked at it closer and did my best to give it a grade of XF. I put it in a sleeve,agree with others here, probably not worth getting it TPGed.
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 Posted 07/24/2019  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nazarene to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, no real surprise I guess but coin arrived today and the feedback here was spot on. Cleaned for sure. Would have liked it for $5-7 maybe, but not so much for the $23 I paid.
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 Posted 07/24/2019  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cyberman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We all pay extra on Ebay compared to buying in person, just how it goes on Ebay. I felt I was lucky to get mine at the price I paid. LCS could have easily charged me twice what I paid and I would have gladly paid it because it looked in decent shape for how old it was. Honestly, I had no idea what the mintage was,plus it had a very nice tone to it and I've always liked old coins with nice natural toning.
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 Posted 08/01/2019  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ballyhoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd half to go against the consensus on being cleaned. I will agree on the EF borderine AU. For some odd reason these seem to turn up similarly toned from album storage. I would have bought it for that.
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