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Post Your Counterfeit Coins Here (Educational Thread)

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 Posted 08/01/2019  9:34 pm Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I wanted to create this thread for a while now, in order to serve an important purpose. Not all, or many of us for that matter have access to the counterfeit reporting forum. I wanted to create this thread so we can have an open image library of fakes so that us, the general populous, have access to information to better educate ourselves.

Rules:

*The coin cannot be stamped copy, coins advertisted or marked as reproductions don't count either.
*Once you're posted the image, in the same reply explain what identifying characteristics lead to the conculsion it was not authentic.
*Repeat posts are allowed, however, if Person A posts a fake 1909-S VDB, person B is allowed to as well. If person A finds a second fake 1909-S VDB, they are welcome to post it.
*All denominations and nationalities of coinage are welcome.
*Discussion is welcome. The purpose is to educate, so please ask away.
*Altered coins are welcome as well, ie added mint marks, altered dates, removed devices, ect. are wanted as well.

That's all. I look forward to seeing what material all of you have. I hope this can help everyone learn.

*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
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 Posted 08/02/2019  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great idea for a thread!
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 Posted 08/02/2019  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joecoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is there any concern that if one posts a counterfeit, that they may get a knock on their door?
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 Posted 08/02/2019  09:41 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No joecoin lol, you are allowed to buy them and show them as long as you state they are counterfeit. Some members actively collected fakes before, as long as you don't try to pass them off as real you are perfectally fine.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 08/02/2019  09:44 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The nickel-brass circular pound coins issued by the UK from 1983 to 2016 were extensively forged. At one point, it was estimated that about 3% of those in circulation were fake.

Here are some fakes I got in change:






This 1990 coin has the correct combination of obverse and reverse, but is poorly struck and the edge inscription is a nonsensical mixture of the Scottish coin's 'Nemo Me Impune Lacessit' and the English coin's 'Decus Et Tutamen'.


This 1995 coin looks quite good but it has the Scottish lion reverse which was only used on official coins in 1994 and 1999! Genuine 1995 coins have a Northern Ireland symbol (a Celtic Cross) on the reverse.


This 1994 coin has the English Three Lions reverse used on genuine coins in 1997 and 1992. Genuine 1994 pound coins have the Scottish Lion as on the above coin!
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 Posted 08/02/2019  10:05 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are great examples NumisRob! I never heard about that issue. Those aren't too convincing either. They all have mushy details, poor strikes, and the lettering looks off as well. Thanks for your contribution!
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 08/02/2019  10:32 am  Show Profile   Check giedrius's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add giedrius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Counterfeit of Riga's schilling of ruler Sigismund III Vasa of Poland. First part of 17 century. Copper instead of silver, unreadable legend.

Catalogue of Lithuanian half-groats 1495-1529 http://goccf.com/t/282866
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 Posted 08/02/2019  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Neat example, you'd think they would at least make it out of the right coloured metal
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 08/02/2019  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1862 USA
One Dollar.
(Counterfeit coin)






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 Posted 08/02/2019  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your contribution Dorado.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 08/02/2019  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Thanks for your contribution Dorado.


You are Welcome!
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 Posted 08/03/2019  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The bimetallic 2 coin, introduced in 1997, is the UK's highest value circulating coin, worth a bit more than $2.

Naturally it has attracted attention from forgers. Most fakes are magnetic (unlike the genuine coins) and are made of a single metal, with either the centre or outer section painted or gilded to make the coin appear bimetallic.

These are the only three fake 2 coins that I've found in circulation:


The date on this 2011 2 coin is too wide, and details all over the coin are a bit wrong, but it's still a fairly good copy.


The colours of this coin are completely off and the inner core looks as if it's made from silver foil. The hologram in the centre of the reverse is wrong.


Very crude with no details on Queen's portrait or hologram!

Genuine 2011 2 coin for comparison:
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08/03/2019 5:13 pm
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 Posted 08/03/2019  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Deflin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Counterfeit 1804 drape bust

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 Posted 08/05/2019  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I posted this 1909-S VDB a while ago on the CCF. Link to the discussion and more photos:

http://goccf.com/t/318207&SearchTerms=1909,vdb


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 Posted 08/05/2019  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bats! Really nice example, I'm going to compulsivly check my -09s VDB now (more on that coin later)
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Type Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/236574/
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 08/05/2019  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just for fun, here is another 1909-S VDB glued on mint mark and a really, really horrible Chinese fake 1909 VDB.

1909-S VDB glued on mint mark






1909 VDB Chinese fake



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