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Are These Proof Franklins "Impaired Proofs"?

 
 
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 Posted 08/14/2019  2:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sprollie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I removed these 1956 and 1957 Proof Franklins from mint cellos. Not sure if the correct description of the condition is impaired proof, damaged, or defect coin. I took photos from 2 different angles to show the difference in appearance. At first I thought "impaired proof" was correct, then I read that only applies to circulated proofs. Thanks in advance for your help.




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 Posted 08/14/2019  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please show us much larger pics.



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 Posted 08/14/2019  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sprollie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok.

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 Posted 08/14/2019  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I call them damaged, from moving around in the cello.
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 Posted 08/14/2019  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They appear to be impaired indeed!
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 Posted 08/14/2019  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Being called an Impaired Proof does not require having been in circulation. Anything that cause damage to a proof could earn it that title.
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 Posted 08/14/2019  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While I have no doubt the other who have commented have more knowledge than me, This Half looks to have similar markings, though to a lesser extent, and was graded by PCGS as a PR66.

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Thanks to all for your help. It is greatly appreciated.
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 Posted 08/14/2019  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have to agree to be impaired .
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 Posted 08/14/2019  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a fingerprint on the obverse of the '56 by Franklin's nose.
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 Posted 08/15/2019  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think they have "hazed" from storage in the cellos, and possibly/probably how the set was stored. This may be heresy, but they would probably benefit greatly from a PROPER dipping.
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Im with Conder101 on this. This could be temperature change/humidity haze from poor storage practices that could be cleared up with a "CORRECTLY DONE" dipping. LOL

I hope I emphasized correctly done enough! the 56 looks handled wrong and a thumbprint on the obverse and an index finger tip print on the reverse, if they just came out of the cello, it likely won't be permanent and can be removed with the hazing still. if it's been there a while... Not sure if the prints will remove, they tend to etch into the surface.

they look pretty good at an angle yet bad straight on, I don't think this is scratches or hairlines from the cello, just a white toning/hazing from humidity exposure most likely.
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Regarding dipping. If you have to ask how to do it correctly, then you do not need to do it at all.

Learning to do it right means perfecting the skill by ruining a handful of already worthless coins. In other words, if you have never done it before, these are not the coins you want to use for a first go.
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Thanks for the information/advice about dipping. I think I'll pass on that.
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