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 Posted 08/17/2019  2:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Pennywise142 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This bar has remained unlabeled in my collection a long time. Any information on it is appreciated.

Weight is 37.2 G and it's approximately 43mm x 17mm. It has a flat bottom and rounded corners. Silver in color and appearance but I wouldn't rule out base metal.







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 Posted 08/17/2019  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears poured, which would be good, except for two things.

There would be a slight depression running the length of the bar on the bottom, but there is not.

Any writing on the top would be punched into the bar, not part of the mold.
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08/17/2019 7:14 pm
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 Posted 08/25/2019  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add everything to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does silver pit like that when it is poured?, it's pitted on both sides.
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 Posted 08/28/2019  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if it is valubale or rare, you might find replicad
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 Posted 08/28/2019  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How did you acquire it?
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 Posted 08/29/2019  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pennywise142 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for the help so far.


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Appears poured, which would be good, except for two things.


Thanks to moxking's observations I'm pretty sure this is a replica. Perhaps the writing on it may give someone here a clue to what it's a replica of?


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How did you acquire it?


So long ago I can't be sure but I believe I bought it at the 1964 World's Fair in New York at one of the Pavilions. It probably just caught my eye as something unusual. I don't remember paying a whole lot for it. Unfortunately, any documentation I may have had for it was lost while moving house many years ago.

I'll probably have it tested for silver content at some point for curiosity sake but I didn't want to damage anything that might have been authentic.
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 Posted 09/19/2019  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gincoin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's Chinese
silver 1 tael bar (1930-1941)
should weigh about 40 grams it may be real.
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09/19/2019 11:52 pm
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 Posted 09/24/2019  07:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pennywise142 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like Gincoin43 nailed it. Thank you very much!

From his information I was able to find a very similar bar on line. If I'm not mistaken the characters on the bar identify the denomination, the name of the silversmith and his location.
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09/24/2019 07:15 am
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 Posted 09/24/2019  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
XRF test would help with authenticity, but perhaps not conclusive. Take it to a scrap gold buyer or a bullion dealer; they should have hand held test equipment.

A Chinese tael weighs 37.5 grams.
To get a very accurate pour weight would be very hard to do. I can't read Chinese, but perhaps the exact weight has been stamped on the bar. The Chinese weight information would need translation and conversion into grams.

Looks OK to me.
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09/24/2019 08:13 am
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 Posted 10/15/2019  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaskel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can read the Chinese characters as "Xing Xin Jin Qian Shang Biao"(company trademark) "Dian hua Chun Yin Tiao"(Electrotypically Pure Silver Bar) Xiang (should be Hong Kong but missing one word "Gang") Dong Jie (street name)

Found something similar https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...ael-ingot-nd
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10/15/2019 10:07 am
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 Posted 10/22/2019  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pennywise142 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I can read the Chinese characters

@jaskel The translation was most helpful. Thank you.


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RF test would help with authenticity, but perhaps not conclusive.

@sel_69l Thanks for the good advice.

Last night was coin club meeting night and I was able to consult a member there who had some knowledge of this item. He said that it did appear to be genuine looking at it in hand. He also offered to do some further research and do some testing as to weight and composition. I'll post the results when he gets back to me.
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 Posted 10/23/2019  05:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will read your next post with interest.
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