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Valued Member
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DBM good points my friend. But it is also frustrating to buy a raw coin for a premium and then pay for grading only to lower its value. Then taking it out of the slab and sending to another grading company. Oh well as you said let's keep honing our skills
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Pillar of the Community
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One has to ask why bother sending in an essentially bullion value Silver Dollar and getting it graded in the first
place . What is the upside in sending an unappealing bag marked coin with subdued Lustre ?
Even an MS 65 is hard to sell these days .
At MS 63 , ICCS missed on this one . As DBM stated, no sense in bashing any grading company
they all have similar misses!
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Valued Member
Canada
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I dont think the purpose is bashing any company. The point of this forum is to share and learn. And you brought a good point to the table, no point in grading these types of coins. Regardless, consistency would be nice by the top grading company in Canada and unfortunately that simply isn't there.
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Very unflattering photo lighting that emphasizes every mark. MS-62 may have been more appropriate, but it's a large silver coin and expected to be quite baggy.
I all but guarantee I could photograph this coin the way PCGS does, and nobody would take issue with the grade.
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Hi 1 cent. How would you photograph it to not show all the Marks?
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Bedrock of the Community
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I all but guarantee I could photograph this coin the way PCGS does, and nobody would take issue with the grade. That one would need post editing photoshop to remove marks which PCGS does NOT do, so no you couldn't. Even the most deceptive attempts at lighting tricks wouldn't save that one |
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I'm with 1cent here... although I personally wouldn't consider it MS-63 by my own standards, I can see the potential for the grade. What exactly is to be expected of an MS-63 1964 dollar? It has a better than normal reverse and and most of the marks are on the right of the obverse..not the prettiest coin but I can understand the grade. If this coin was photographed from a different angle the hits wouldn't be so noticeable..also there are no large bag marks..mostly just tiny hits. If the coin was deeply toned it would probably have went into a MS-64 holder...
Feel free to call me Will.
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09/26/2019 12:08 pm
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Valued Member
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I still fail to see how and why the angle of the photo makes any difference to the grade. The point is it has those marks which is why I was shocked at the grade.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Because it is at an angle that makes the marks really pop much more than they possibly could in hand. These are large close ups that exaggerate the issues as well.
Feel free to call me Will.
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Valued Member
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When coins are graded they're blown up 50x on a screen. Which is why these Marks have nothing to do with angles when it comes to grading...
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Pillar of the Community
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I can assure you, they are not blown up 50X on any screens..they're rarely ever even on a screen at all. I have sat in the ICCS office talking while submitting coins and there are no screens involved from what I've seen. And I didn't say angles have anything to do with the TPG grade, I am saying in this post the coin is given a bad angle exaggerating the damage..that coupled with the large high quality pictures makes the coin look less appealing than it does in hand. Feel free to call me Will.
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ICCS does not factor in eye appeal in their grading system, one of the reason this baggy coin might attain this grade
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62, shot at 63 would have been my guess.
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I am saying in this post the coin is given a bad angle exaggerating the damage..that coupled with the large high quality pictures makes the coin look less appealing than it does in hand. While true, short of photoshopping in marks and damage that look like someone jumped on it in a gravel parking lot that is not the issue here. If that's a 63 than I need to crack out all my Canadian stuff and send it to them to sell and enjoy the windfall Edited by basebal21
09/26/2019 11:22 pm
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