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1947 D Lincoln Cent Help!! Excessive Cud Or What?!

 
 
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 Posted 09/08/2019  1:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Husker402 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Tell me what the heck I'm looking at here lol!




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 Posted 09/08/2019  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, it's not a Cud. Just extra solder from a soldering iron. PSD.

Here's what a real Cud should look like. http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-ce...s-1940-1949/
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 09/08/2019  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
. Folks do strange things to coins.
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They sure do, and I speak from experience.
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to CCF. Agreed with PMD.
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I think the guess of solder is 100% accurate.
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Ok that answers my next question and could possibly be solder... Even the why part doesn't even interest me because, yeah people are weird lol. It's the how that keeps me interested... Ok say it's solder, how is it melted into the coin on the obverse and the coin is formed to the chunk on the reverse? Without ANY sign of heat stress to the coin and no tool marks did that chunk bind to the coin. Hard to see in the pictures but that chunk on the reverse doesn't appear to be melted into the coin like the little splatter spots on the obverse? Now I'm a certified welder Union ironworker for a living that's familiar with undercut when welding and if that were an actual "weld" then I would be able to understand the impressions around the splatters... So my question is, if that was done intentionally, isn't solder just a binder? Or does solder actually sweat into the metal? I know when I soldered by copper plumbing pipes, the solder didn't show any signs of intermingle with the copper. A typical soldering iron only reaches 500 degrees Fahrenheit. The badass soldering iron I have gets to 800 instantly with the pull of a trigger. It takes almost 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit to melt copper. Solder would stick and flake off but definitely not intermingling to the coin I can't tell you for sure or not because I'máno plumber, how hot would that soldering iron have to be and how hot would that solder have to be to penetrate a solid copper coin? For what it's worth and narrows down the type of metal that's embedded into the coin... Would have to be brass, No doubt... And then you're into Tig welding and beyond soldering... There is no Arc strike or arch scratch on this coin... I realize at the end of the day this is a fantasy piece because we will never have the answers as to the motive or location of how or where this happened. Everybody I encountered over this coin says firmly It is post mint and that someone did it in their garage or whatever. I am totally okay and can accept those answers. Fine it didn't happen at the mint. Impossible is what I hear over and over and over. I can accept that. It is the how that is driving me nuts... Each side of the coin has its own "how". I believe that whatever took place on each side happened simultaneously. I feel like while the smooth stuff on the obverse heated the coin enough to melt into it while softening the coin enough for it to form to the chunk on the back... and solder is the most logical thing I've heard so far from the forums I have posted to but it just doesn't cut it. But that's what I want is more ideas of how because I need to know how this was done LOL
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There are a million ways it could've have happened and none of them are important. What is important is it couldn't have happened at the mint so it's not an error.
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 Posted 09/09/2019  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Husker402 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just wanted to say thanks for the welcomes! I've known for a little bit of time that you guys are serious coin collectors and are some hard-hitting fellas and ladies! But that's what this line of collection needs because of how easy it is to be deceived or cheated! I'm a newer collector myself to coins and have lots to learn so I'm learning lol... but I'm an avid collector and the rare and unique. And more than anything error coins are what I'm after! I thought this one would be a fun one to get us talking and he'll maybe even find an answer... I have an undocumented error coin that I'm dying to ask you guys about that has nothing to do with this by the way #128513;!! But overall I just wanted to say thanks again for the Wall comes and not only am I here to soak up information but I'm also happy to share what I know as well in return!! I researched the heck out of everything and don't come to an argument without the facts and I'm never quick to dismiss anything unless I'm positive beyond a doubt! And you're dealing with one of the most skeptical and cynical people I know LOL!
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