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1925 Gold Saint Gaudens - 35 Grams - Is It Real?

 
 
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 Posted 10/17/2019  9:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shannon7692 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have just received this St. Gaudens and my research shows this coin should weigh 33.436 grams. This coin weighs exactly 35 grams. Does this automatically mean its fake? Are there variances in the weight of this issue? Thank you in advance for your assistance.





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 Posted 10/17/2019  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If your scale is correct being overweight by a gram and a half, is a real bad sign that the coin is counterfeit. Your photos need to be orientated upright for viewing the coin. The date on the coin also appears off as the 5 is higher than the other numbers and the tail of the nine does not appear correct. It would help if your photos were larger and orientated correctly.

if you can, send the coin back for a refund. It looks like you have a counterfeit.
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 Posted 10/18/2019  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That weight makes the coin suspect. It's tough with sideways photos but I do see a lot more copper spotting than normal for this date.

What does the edge look like?

I agree that returning it is the safe thing to do.

Buy NGC or PCGS. They are no more expensive than raw.
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 Posted 10/18/2019  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1. Check your scales for accuracy.

2. The top of the '5' in the date looks to be suspiciously high, but we need close up pictures of the date to examine more closely.
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10/18/2019 12:50 am
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 Posted 10/18/2019  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Better pics needed, shown right-side up. This is important.



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Thank you for the comments. I have corrected the pics and included a magnified image of the date. Hope this helps. I have also included the best shot of the rim as I could. It is engraved with USA and I believe raised stars.

The middle does seem to show a strong copper tint. I did not purchase this guy it was given to me by my father so hope its real. Any other way to determine? THANK YOU AGAIN!!






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 Posted 10/19/2019  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin needs to be checked by a XRF analyze for metal content. At a coin show you can typically someone who has the XRF analyzer. If the coin checks out for metal content, then, send into a TPG for grading and authentication. The blow up photo of the date does not look bad and the copper tint could be toning. There are a number of fake gold coins made from real gold.
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 Posted 10/19/2019  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayyk31 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stop by your local coin shop and see if they have a Sigma Metalalycs Precious metal Verifier Pro. I'm sure they would have no issues testing it for you. Also throe it on another scale. Make sure they are calibrated correctly.
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 Posted 10/20/2019  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Captain Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Consequently you could just send it to PCGS or NGC and ask them to authenticate and grade it... it'll cost some money but you could ship it out from a reputable coin shop.
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