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1949 Canada Cent Punched On Foreign Planchet

 
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 Posted 04/04/2020  10:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wpjson to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have received several 1949 cents reportedly punched on a foreign planchet. The planchet was smaller than the Canadian one which has resulted in coin that exhibits a wavy or rippled effect because of the insufficiency of planchet material.

Does anyone have any information about these kind of cents? They are beautiful red coins, but I have not been able to locate any information on such a happening. Thank you.
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 Posted 04/04/2020  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's start with some pics, please.



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I am still feeling my way around here. I will post photographs in the a.m. The ripple effect is hard to catch, but I will give it my best.
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 Posted 04/04/2020  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The description sounds like an acid coin, but pics are needed to confirm anything beyond speculation.
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 Posted 04/04/2020  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The description sounds like an acid coin


Most likely.

The RCM did not mint any coins for foreign countries in 1949...
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The big problem is a "ripple" is hard to photograph, but I hope this helps.





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 Posted 04/05/2020  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you take a pic after removing it from the 2 X 2? What's the weight and diameter (measured with a caliper if possible).
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these photographs are of another coin, which I thought showed the ripple better. Unfortunately, I do not think they show much on a photograph.





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 Posted 04/05/2020  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weight?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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The rims on this coin appear to be more or less properly filled out to me, suggesting that the planchet was more or less of normal size when it was struck. I am not sure that the coin is necessarily underweight.

The odd lustre, odd toning around the date on the top coins and unusual & heavy carbon spots suggest to me that the coin has been cleaned or chemically treated in some way.
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This is not just a coupe of coins that I am talking about. There are a couple of rolls. Claim is the previous owner bought them several decades ago. I do not think one would take the time to clean that many, card them up and forget about them. But I do not know. I probably need to get one of the into the hands of an expert. Maybe NGC. Photographs do not work.

As for the weight, I do not have a scale that gives me a number, but I do have one that compares the weight of 2 different items small enough to fit on the plates. It shows there may we a very slight weight difference between these coins and another cent which is supposed to have the same weight.
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Without a diameter and thickness measurement or weight, we can only speculate.
We can't determine size or weight from pics and that is what is needed to determine if these are something unusual or not.

BTW
Coins are struck not punched.
Only the blank planchets are punched.
"insufficiency of planchet material" does not cause waves or ripples, it can cause a soft strike not evident on your well struck coins.
Save yourself time and money, before you send one off to NGC take it to your local friendly post office and have it weighed and measured (unless that's not allowed in your area at the moment).
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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