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So lets discuss the impact of a scratch on a mint state coin. First of all what is your grade opinion of this subject coin? (apologies if you think this should be in the grading forum. The discussion is concerning the scratch more so then the grade. Feel free to move it) There is a faint scratch that runs from the "r" in victoria through to the eye and to the hairline. Its hard to pick up in the photo. There is also a smaller scratch running vertically along the corner of the eye. I've seen plenty of MS60 coins with uglier dings then this coin has. Is this an MS coin with a scratch? or Is this an AU coin because of the scratch? or Is this an AU coin anyways with or without the scratch?        |
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Looks Mint state, but looks to have no luster, either it's been over dipped, photos are over exposed or cleaned, don't see hairlines, and most coin cleaners use abrasives, but some just use chemicals. If the coin looks like the photos show in hand, then it's likely cleaned or over dipped and stripped of luster
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Maybe the pictures aren't the greatest. In hand, this coin has tons of luster!
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Well then I'll say say MS-60 straight grade, however the scratch I find distracting in the last photo, but almost unnoticeable in the other, so it would still likely effect the grade but can't say whether or not it would details it or not.
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I've found with ICCS the scratch has to be pretty noticeable before they mention it on the flip.
As for the grade, it looks like there is some slight wear on the hair by the crown, but it could just be a weaker strike.
I'll say MS-62 with no mention of the scratch.
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm going MS63 with a shoot at 64
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AU58 regardless of scratch.
Appears to have the slightest wear both obverse and reverse.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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United States
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I think the scratch is a problem - I'll say AU details.
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It might be the photo's/lighting, but something does not look right with the surface. I would venture AU 55, or maybe ICCS MS 62 (which often seems to indicate a cleaning), but not mentioned.
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Mint state with a scratch....it happens. Though it's clearly a scratch and not a bag mark I would say...
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Scratch or no scratch it is an AU coin. The contrast of lustre in the open fields compared to the protected areas of the legend speaks lots to me. AU-55 to AU-58.
Also, this coin has been dipped to the point it is obvious... tuck it in an old coin paper envelope and leave on a sunny windowsill for a bit...
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And here it is. AU58, no mention of a scratch. Thanks for playing! Enough of you convinced me that it was AU, but I still wonder what it would grade if it didn't have the scratch.  |
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Please retitle this thread to "How do we interpret the surfaces of a coin from photos?".
Thank you.
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Absent examining the coin in hand I can not rule out this being a die-crack.
The field betwixt the denticle and the R in Victoria is tiny. The line butts hard against the denticle and the R. To replicate this line with even a hardened scribe would prove most difficult.
doug
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Following up on the previous:
A Die-Crack appears to be from the A in GRATIA to the rim.
doug
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Posted 05/12/2020 6:06 pm
