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Counterfeit Detection: 2000-P American Silver Eagle

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 Posted 06/28/2020  4:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CCFPress to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
NGC - This spurious issue includes fuzzy details and missing elements.

The American Silver Eagle is one of the most popular coin series in the world. In fact, more than half a billion have been struck in a number of different finishes since it was introduced in 1986.



The majority of silver Eagles are bullion issues released in tubes. However, the United States Mint also sells proof versions directly to collectors. Because of the special way in which these latter coins are produced and handled, they usually sell for a premium. In 2000 the Philadelphia Mint struck 600,000 proof silver Eagles in what was the last year before production of such pieces moved to the West Point facility. The Numismatic Guaranty Corporation ( NGC) Price Guide lists a Proof (PF)-69 Ultra Cameo at $60 and a PF-70 Ultra Cameo at $300 both much higher than the approximately $17 worth of silver that comprises each example.

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 Posted 08/05/2020  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dajones to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And what of this? This one looks legit, except for that entirely spurious inner rim:



Obverse looks fine though:



This is on eBay (no, I am not the seller or a shill).

Anybody have any ideas on this? I couldn't find anything on the great g-d Goog.


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Post a link, I'll remove it.
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 Posted 08/05/2020  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@dajones,

That's a pretty good fake, the date doesn't look right on the obverse beside the inner rim on the eagle, otherwise; it would of fool me.

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It'll be gone soon.
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Ha, ha: Solved! It was the plastic cointainer giving the appearance of a second lip. Whew.
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Ha, ha: Solved! It was the plastic cointainer giving the appearance of a second lip. Whew.


No, it's on the coin. I removed it.
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Strange, on my view, that they were honest with the pictures in the listing. To be honest, I'd be much more concerned about someone who uses pictures of an actual American Silver Eagle but sends me this instead.
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 Posted 08/06/2020  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Strange, on my view, that they were honest with the pictures in the listing


Doesn't matter one bit. They're trying to sell a counterfeit coin.
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Doesn't matter one bit. They're trying to sell a counterfeit coin.
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 Posted 08/06/2020  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrestling_135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With the exception of that inner ring that may or may not have been the coin holder, how could you tell this was counterfit?
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With the exception of that inner ring that may or may not have been the coin holder, how could you tell this was counterfit?


Have you ever seen a coin holder that looked like that?

Also:
1. The field seems to be discontinuous around the inner rim, almost like a two-metal coin (which the ASE is not).
2. The font on the reverse is also incorrect. There is serif on the edges of the A, E, and R on this coin--whereas there is not on a legitimate one.
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Also, on a related note, I'm going to go out a limb and suggest that this one isn't actually a proof set. I mean look at that dime... That's probably in the G-4/VG-8 range...

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I'll remove it.
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@bobby131313 Sounds good. Thanks!
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