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Indien Or Arabic Coin? Same Obverse As Reverse

 
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 Posted 06/03/2020  02:00 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello Collectors,

I have this silver coin in my collection which I am not able to identify. It appears that both sides are exactly the same. As far as I know this is not usual. It looks like it is dated 1444?

Does anyone happens to know this coin



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 Posted 06/03/2020  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My reading of the date is 1333 but I might be wrong.
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 Posted 06/03/2020  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the date were 1333 it would correspond to roughly 1915 in the Gregorian calendar, which may be a better guess.
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 Posted 06/03/2020  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure if the date is 1333 or 1334, and suspect it's not even a coin. Looks neat, though.
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 Posted 06/03/2020  09:47 am  Show Profile   Check Seeker55's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Seeker55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, date shown is 1333. There is also a number 4 in the top left, which could represent a regnal year. I don't think this is Indian, and it might even be a token rather than a coin. Weight and diameter?
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 Posted 06/03/2020  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The diameter is almost 16mm . For the weight I have to wait
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 Posted 06/03/2020  10:02 am  Show Profile   Check Seeker55's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Seeker55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hopefully someone who reads Arabic will come along and translate it for you.
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 Posted 06/03/2020  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willieboyd2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that this is a modern token of some kind and not a coin.

I make out the top letters as A,K,B,N but that might not mean anything.

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 Posted 06/03/2020  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is from Iran, a "Persian New Year" token. As noted when other examples have been posted on the forum, the Arabic phrase repeated on both sides is "Ya Sahib al Zaman", which translates to "O Owner of Time". It is not just a token to toss around at Persian New Year festivals, it is an invocation or plea for the return of the Mahdi, the lost Twelfth Imam of the Shi'ites, whose status is kind of the Persian equivalent of King Arthur: many Shi'ites of the "Twelver" sect believe that their lost Imam (who, as a child, disappeared into the desert in AD 874), will one day return, impose justice, punish the heretics and restore the Shi'ite Empire to glory.

Unlike the examples in the earlier threads linked to the post above, the OP's token is dated: 1333. This would be in the Iranian "Solar Hijira" calendar, rather than the regular Islamic "Lunar Hijira" calendar, and would convert to AD 1954. Putting a date on a New Year token makes them only useful for that one year; undated tokens can be re-used year after year.
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 Posted 06/04/2020  05:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vince1977 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting! I have never heard of such tokens before. I did some looking on the web but I can't find an exact match. There is a token from 1334 with a peacock on it, also from Iran. So this token has been used for remembering and honoring this 12th Imam.
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