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1979 - 1989 5 Cent Weak Strike

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 Posted 06/30/2020  4:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Meandice to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've had this coin in a bin for as long as I can remember. I thought it was just worn down, but I am now learning that this may be a weak strike.

The obverse bust dates the coin between 1979 and 1989. But other than that the reverse only shows a faint beaver.

Could this be my first true error?


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 Posted 06/30/2020  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just weigh it and you will have your answer
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 Posted 06/30/2020  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All the scratches would indicate PMD,but it might also be a struck through grease? Weight would help.
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 Posted 06/30/2020  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meandice to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I don't have a gram scale that shows decimals but...

The coin itself is 4g and with another 1981 is 9g. So it should be around 4.5g which is the correct weight, right?

What would that tell me for sure?
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 Posted 06/30/2020  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meandice to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin shows similar wear on both sides. I'm not convinced that someone deliberately buffed out one side...
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Trial strikes usually have weakness on both sides, this coin should weigh 4.54 to 4.6 grams depending on year, this means the coin is under weight, likely buffed or grinded
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 Posted 06/30/2020  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meandice to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately my scale does not have decimals.

I took 2 post 2000 nickels (3.95g) and weighed them separately (4g each) and together (8g).

I weighed the pictured coin with each post 2000 and they weigh 9g.

So I assume the coin would need to be at least 4.55 for the scale to round up. I understand that this really proves nothing until I get a proper scale...

But it gives me hope that I may have a real error!

Thanks
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 Posted 06/30/2020  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Take your coin to a Canada Post outlet, their scales are quite exact.
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 Posted 07/01/2020  06:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can and should buy a scale for not much money,it will come in handy.
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 Posted 07/04/2020  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meandice to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So my scale arrived from Amazon and....



I imagine this means it is real.
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 Posted 07/04/2020  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are too many lines on the coin to be just a weak strike. IMO
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There is very little market for test or set up strike coins except for dollars, you are in a tough position, without grading most will see this as PMD, grading a 100 buck coin is really not worth the risk reward.
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 Posted 07/05/2020  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Check nickelsguy's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
obv. is well struck. Now way a weak strike or die adjustment strike on one side. Come on peeps.
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 Posted 07/05/2020  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

There is no way a coin can be weakly struck on one side only.
Physical laws are in play at the mint.
There is no meta physical press striking errors for us to ponder.
Remotely possible that it's some kind of struck through.
Infinitesimally small chance that it was struck by a funky die.
99.9% chance that it's PMD.
0% for weakly struck.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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There is very little market for test or set up strike coins except for dollars,


I'd probably disagree with that. A few years ago a lovely mid-1970s 50c setup strike went up for auction and I was strongly outbid.

This one example I have, which I suspect would do ok in an auction... it is on a copper-plated zinc planchet:

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