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1979 - 1989 5 Cent Weak Strike

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 Posted 06/30/2020  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meandice to your friends list
So I don't have a gram scale that shows decimals but...

The coin itself is 4g and with another 1981 is 9g. So it should be around 4.5g which is the correct weight, right?

What would that tell me for sure?
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 Posted 06/30/2020  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meandice to your friends list
The coin shows similar wear on both sides. I'm not convinced that someone deliberately buffed out one side...
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 Posted 06/30/2020  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Trial strikes usually have weakness on both sides, this coin should weigh 4.54 to 4.6 grams depending on year, this means the coin is under weight, likely buffed or grinded
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 Posted 06/30/2020  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meandice to your friends list
Unfortunately my scale does not have decimals.

I took 2 post 2000 nickels (3.95g) and weighed them separately (4g each) and together (8g).

I weighed the pictured coin with each post 2000 and they weigh 9g.

So I assume the coin would need to be at least 4.55 for the scale to round up. I understand that this really proves nothing until I get a proper scale...

But it gives me hope that I may have a real error!

Thanks
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 Posted 06/30/2020  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
Take your coin to a Canada Post outlet, their scales are quite exact.
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 Posted 07/01/2020  06:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
You can and should buy a scale for not much money,it will come in handy.
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 Posted 07/04/2020  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meandice to your friends list
So my scale arrived from Amazon and....

1979---1989-5-Cent-Weak-Strike

I imagine this means it is real.
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 Posted 07/04/2020  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
There are too many lines on the coin to be just a weak strike. IMO
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There is very little market for test or set up strike coins except for dollars, you are in a tough position, without grading most will see this as PMD, grading a 100 buck coin is really not worth the risk reward.
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 Posted 07/05/2020  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
obv. is well struck. Now way a weak strike or die adjustment strike on one side. Come on peeps.
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There is no way a coin can be weakly struck on one side only.
Physical laws are in play at the mint.
There is no meta physical press striking errors for us to ponder.
Remotely possible that it's some kind of struck through.
Infinitesimally small chance that it was struck by a funky die.
99.9% chance that it's PMD.
0% for weakly struck.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 07/05/2020  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

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There is very little market for test or set up strike coins except for dollars,


I'd probably disagree with that. A few years ago a lovely mid-1970s 50c setup strike went up for auction and I was strongly outbid.

This one example I have, which I suspect would do ok in an auction... it is on a copper-plated zinc planchet:

1979---1989-5-Cent-Weak-Strike
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 Posted 07/06/2020  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meandice to your friends list
Thank you everyone for the feedback! I have no intent on selling or trading the coin and after the debate in this thread sounds like it is a piece worth keeping in my collection.

The weight and bust dates the coin 1979-1981. I know I am new at this, but to me both sides of the coin show the same pattern of wear and none of it is circular. So IMHO for the reverse to be PMD it would have needed to have been done when the coin was near mint condition, possibly a bored high school student in shop class, and then returned into circulation for ~10 years before I found it in my change.

However, to me it is unlikely that the coin would show such uniform "damage" to the reverse if not intentional. It also, in my amateur eyes, looks similar to the images in SPP-Ottawa's picture.

It is unfortunate that the coin was found after so long in circulation that things are not more clear cut.
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 Posted 07/06/2020  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
When I saw your coin, I thought it might have been Struck Through Grease on the reverse, which would also explain no loss in weight, and detail preservation in the middle of the devices and denticals. If your coin was in EF or better condition, it would have collectable value as an error.

Unfortunately, now, it is a conversation piece, because circulation wear and damage has basically rendered a potential error worthless.

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