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1884 O Morgan - You Vs PCGS

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 Posted 07/01/2020  12:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is one if mine that I have had for many years. Most of the scratches are on the plastic holder, and the smudge over the eagle breast is on the plastic. From my angled mobile phone shots I've tried to capture the plumage underneath.
What do you think they graded it? / What would you give it. Will post actual grade in 48 hours.









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 Posted 07/01/2020  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm having a hard time getting a good feel but looks nice maybe MS64 ?
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 Posted 07/01/2020  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say MS-64 as well.
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 Posted 07/01/2020  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It certainly is MS64 quality but I'm not getting a good read on the surfaces in the fields. They look a bit dull and lifeless in these images.
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 Posted 07/02/2020  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
strike is soft which is normal for this year but based on these photos I think she's been over dipped. UNC details (Cleaned). remove from holder for a more accurate assessment
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 Posted 07/02/2020  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Photos are too blurry for me to make a grade, but I would guess this coin would grad AU58.
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 Posted 07/02/2020  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you guys are right. Better pics, outside the holder, are needed.
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 Posted 07/02/2020  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The surface luster is a concern. Maybe a few more photos with better lighting.
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 Posted 07/02/2020  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope these are a bit better at showing the lustre. I've used a thinner material for diffusing the light and put my light on full brightness. Any better? Basically, the fields aren't dull at all, they reflect a lot of light.

Hopefully the bottom photo will give a good idea of the lustre.









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 Posted 07/02/2020  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The new photos help. The surfaces look fairly clean. I don't see anything from contact marks that would hold this back from MS-64. The strike is pretty soft. I can't tell from the photos if there is disruption of the luster at the high points. You have the coin in hand,and can better assess that factor. The luster seems a bit dull to me, too. That could well be the lighting or the slab.

I'm cautiously in the MS-64 camp here, assuming that the luster is unbroken.
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 Posted 07/02/2020  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
New pics don't help for me, no grade.
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 Posted 07/03/2020  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably MS-64
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I'm still at UNC details over dipped
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 Posted 07/03/2020  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the replies. PCGS graded it MS63, but I really feel it's better than that. I may just crack it out of the case which is badly scratched and the blurring over the eagles breast is just plain annoying. Unless these old style holders are worth any more? If I bust it out I'll post photos.


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 Posted 07/03/2020  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It most likely got a lower grade due to the dull luster. When I first looked at it, it appeared cleaned to me. Typical dull bright look that cleaning with baking soda and water produces.
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 Posted 07/04/2020  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bust her out ladies and gentlemen. No regrets. Thoughts?








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