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Help ID Richard III Coin, I Uploaded Pictures

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 Posted 08/22/2020  7:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Pantera202 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was told this is a Richard iii coin, I'm not sure. Does anyone know if it is or what any of the Mark's mean? Thanks


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 Posted 08/22/2020  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@pant, I'll move this over to the Great Britain coin subforum in a minute, but it looks to me like the rev has N DON, which means this coin was struck in London. I'm having a harder time with the letters on the obv.
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 Posted 08/24/2020  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pantera202 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the welcome, I've been collecting for a while now and its exciting to be here. Think the Richard iii coins have a sun and rose but that's all I know. I'm trying to figure out the letters on the front of the coin.
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 Posted 08/24/2020  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't find any Richard III small silver with trefoils in the reverse quarters.
Check these links, you may find a match for your coin. Spence is correct, definitely struck in London.

http://www.psdetecting.com/Inscriptions.html

http://www.bajr.org/BAJRGuides/37.%...7Coins_I.pdf
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 Posted 08/24/2020  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector28 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking here http://www.historiccoinage.com/shop...ichard%20III it looks as though it could be a match?

I personally think it matches the bottom left half penny portrait best, but that's purely speculation and I'm by no means an expert.
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 Posted 08/24/2020  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pantera202 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info! Are the portraits on these coins different for each king? I always thought they looked the same but I have no idea.
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 Posted 08/24/2020  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hogarth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I don't think trying to match an almost non existent portrait to a known Richard III is the best course of action here. The reverse of P's coin clearly has trefoils in each of the reverse quarters. Surely this would be the most sensible starting point.
P, allowing for the missing portion, what is the diameter of your coin?
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Here is a pic of the dimension
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 Posted 08/24/2020  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pantera202 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I think its 1.25cm or 12.5mm. Also I found this link about the different Richard iii coins and what's on them. Hope this helps some.

http://www.numsoc.net/richardiii.html
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 Posted 09/05/2020  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pantera202 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The letters next to the portrait are ANGL which is a Richard ii coin. I paid $80 for it, is that too much for a coin in this bad of a condition?


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If you were happy to pay $80 then that's what it's worth to you.
To be honest, I wouldn't want it.
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Thanks Hogarth, that's what I needed to hear, bought it on Ebay and can still return it. Just so I know why wouldn't you want it? It's just in that bad of condition? Thanks
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Yes, most definitely, it's too far gone, and there being a large chunk missing too?
You could find a much nicer addition to your collection for $80.
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 Posted 09/05/2020  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pantera202 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again Hogarth, I will return this coin. I don't know much about English medieval coins. What is a good rare king I should start collecting? Thanks any info helps! :)
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 Posted 09/06/2020  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There really isn't enough detail to say with any certainty that it is Richard though what remains of the bust detail does look a bit like it might be. The only thing for sure is that it is from the London mint. Might be a 1/2 penny Spink 2171.
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