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8 Reales 1779 Charles III Potosi Mint

 
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 Posted 09/27/2020  02:13 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DirtyHarry to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi everyone! What are your thoughts on this south american 8 Reales from 1779?
(Weight is 26,8 g... which seems fine)

Thanks a lot!

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 Posted 09/27/2020  02:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgenn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please see the previous posts on the "broken castle".
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 Posted 09/27/2020  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nearly Fine. (British grading system)
I will keep my Sheldon grading for US coins. Probably not appropriate in this case anyway.

Charles 111 was an ugly looking individual. Spoils his coins.

Spanish milled Dollars are the most well known coins in circulating Australian Proclamation coinage. Important item in early Australian numismatic history, before the introduction of standard British Sterling currency in 1825.
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 Posted 09/27/2020  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DirtyHarry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi! Thanks for your replies!
I have read the fascinating threads about the Potosi broken castle issue where so many experienced and renowned forum members took part. A real pleasure to read and some posts I have also bookmarked for the precious information they have.

I understand that all samples containing the broken castle are suspect, and in fact I find the previous sample rather strange-looking.

I also found curious -to some extent- the sloppiness shown in the reverse die design (the weird contour of the shield, the curved column, the five-legged lion , etc.) but then I also found a matching reverse die coin which has been sold quite recently on Heritage Auctions:


This one sold for more than $1.800- and was previously auctioned by Sedwick also for a high sum the year before.

And both reverses look like a perfect match:



However I still have lots of doubts about it...
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 Posted 09/28/2020  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgenn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that does seem to be a match for the reverse. Perhaps you can perform a specific gravity test and so add to our collective knowledge of these issues.
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 Posted 09/28/2020  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DirtyHarry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi jgenn! That would be great, but sadly I am not the owner.
However, I might be interested in making an offer for it and that's the reason why I posted in the community before making any commitments.
I owned many Potosi pieces but I am not quite sure about this one.

I will try to examine it in person. The seller has at least one other Potosi broken castle sample that I am aware of -in better grading- among many other colonial pieces.

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