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1974 D Penny Restruck With Dime Possible Mule Clash Mirrored Brockage

 
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 Posted 10/16/2020  10:08 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Majic78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message



Here is a coin I got in change at the gas station. It is a 1974 D penny with a dime reverse struck into the front of the penny. The reverse dime that is struck onto the obverse of the penny has reverse lettering and it is struck into the the surface like a mirrored brockage. What's cool is that a dime is struck into the penny which would be a mule right? But it is a flipover and mirrored brockage, but dont know if you can call it a mule clash. The reverse of the penny has details of the obverse of the dime but it is very weak. The date and mint mark of the dime is really about all that is visible on the reverse of the penny, except some weak lettering on rim. Please help me to identify as it has got to be quite rare and is very unique. Thanks for taking the CV time CV to look. Please comment if you desire to, thx.

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 Posted 10/16/2020  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Majic78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry here is the front
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 Posted 10/16/2020  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. Looks like glue to me. Not an error.
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 Posted 10/16/2020  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Soak it in acetone and it will likely go away.
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Okay, thanks, but how is it that the lettering is reversed? A dime cant leave a reverse imprint on a coin can it? Thanks much
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 Posted 10/16/2020  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Majic78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, that is the part that is kind of confusing, also there are other Mark's of a ring like a third attempt to strike left of the part that has the dime imprint reversed, and on the reverse of the penny, the date of the dime is visible and half struck into it as in a flipover where the penny is stuck in the collar, then when the dime was struck the penny stuck to the dime die, idk but it is not looking like blue to me but I have the coin in front of me too. Sorry, but I am not convinced it is glue. Is it safe to put coins in acetone? I will do it to test it as you suggest, but what happens if it stays and is not glue? Lots of questions thanks
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Please just soak it in acetone. We've had people get 100% combative and resort to name calling they were so positive it wasn't glue... but it was. We see this all the time.
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Okay thanks also I am doing an experiment gluing a dime to a penny to see how that looks once pulled apart. And I will get back to you with the results. Thanks
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100% acetone should be used,not standard nail polish remover. Acetone does not remove all "glues",it does nothing on most types of epoxies. If it does not come off of your coin,your coin is still PMD.
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 Posted 10/16/2020  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Afraid so.



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Okay thanks also I am doing an experiment gluing a dime to a penny to see how that looks once pulled apart. And I will get back to you with the results. Thanks


This proves noting about your coin.
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 Posted 10/16/2020  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely nothing but glue is the culprit.
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 Posted 10/16/2020  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, a dime CAN leave a reverse imprint on a coin. Get some modeling clay, and press a dime into it, and after removing the dime you'll see a reverse image in the clay.
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 Posted 10/16/2020  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So are you claiming that an already struck dime wound up in the hopper with the cent planchets and was then struck over a cent, creating the reverse image on the one you are showing us?

Chance is nil.

Also, if this were the case, the amount of pressure used to strike a coin would distort the transferred image. What you are seeing is clean, clear, and raised. 100% caused by glue.

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 Posted 10/16/2020  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Majic78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay thanks much appreciate the advice on it. It's interesting though what can happen and investigating what might have happened. Thanks for your expertise.

Mike
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