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Pillar of the Community
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This is a fairly bad counterfeit but in-hand feels like it was circulated for some time. The base metal is a little stronger than some counterfeits but still only comes in at 10.87g. The fun part of this one is the strong doubling on HALF. 1914 Barber half dollar - counterfeit with doubling    |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Interesting and educational as always. Do you active collect these?
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United States
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Was the core of this made by what I have heard called "sand casting," starting with a circulated coin?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am unsure of exactly how this one was made, but your idea sounds right. There is a base coin underneath with a coating that appears casted on the top. On the obverse you can see a lot of places where the coating is coming off. And yes, I quite actively collect counterfeits. Here is part of what I am going through right now figuring out what's what. All have been identified as counterfeit by someone (usually dealers) and I go through and work them out and put them in my collection. I'll likely post some of these as I get to them if they're interesting or educational.  Edited by tropicalbats
11/26/2020 8:56 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Are you acquiring many different types of circulating counterfeits, or is mostly counterfeits of collectible coins?
In my short time back in coin collecting, I have not seen much of the former.
These posts of yours are usually on my must read list.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's both. Above is a pretty strong selection of mostly circulating counterfeits, but I buy in lots from dealers and end up with all kinds of stuff from junk marked "COPY" to really high end stuff. Some of it takes me a good while to figure out why it got flagged as bad, like this 1878 that a dealer gave me a little while ago. It's in a home slab and I haven't weighed it or anything yet, but looks good to eye with nice cartwheel luster. I do not yet know why he flagged it, but I will figure it out. But this is why I generally have a bunch of them sitting around, as they can take me a long time to figure out at times what the deal is. I learn more every time I have another crack at the counterfeit bin.  |
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Unless the glare has me thrown off, aren't the design lines awfully weak for a Morgan? Lines are almost missing from the nose down to the neck. She is having a bad hair day, too! Kind of matted together looking—missing some sharp lines. In fact, it looks like somebody took clippers to the area behind the ear, like my haircut instead of Ms. Anna Williams' hairdo. Rims and denticles look sloppier than what I am used to seeing.
Don't accuse me of spoiling the mystery for you. I don't know enough for you to take my word for any of the above!
Curious about the manufacturing method on that one, too.
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree with much of your assessment, especially the lack of sharpness in the details. But I am not well-versed in all the VAMs, and I believe some of those are exactly things like missing detail around the lips or nose. Pretty much everything turns out to be counterfeit as dealers are sharp, and I don't want real coins as not what I'm collecting, but I want to know the why and try to research all the coins as best as I can. Remember, I'm a Lincoln specialist, so pretty much don't know what many of these fakes are supposed to look like in the first place, so I start at point zero for many of them and learn my way around.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Great pile of fakes for a fake collection.
just carl
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United States
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The thickness/font of EPU seems off on the dollar.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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i find these images of counterfeits more interesting than most pics of the real thing.
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