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 Posted 12/01/2020  09:28 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add don in nmkt to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


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 Posted 12/02/2020  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not an expert on these, but looks like a near to me. I don't know if there is a middle of the road on this, but it looks close to a far.
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MS64
SF Near


edit for typo
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 12/02/2020  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a near SF to me; I agree with with MS-64
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I hope you are ok with me copying your images and re-posting them in original color.
this is not to hijack your post. it is to show and compare two identical coins with perhaps a slightly different grade... or maybe not.?
we shall let the experts dissect this one with the ifs and buts of why it is and or why it is not. should be interesting...
Also one question: would you recommend for either coin be certified, assuming the cost is under $10?
thanks everyone...


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 Posted 12/04/2020  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think either of these coins would grade any higher then MS63.
Hard to see in these photos but somethings going on to the left of Canada and the date if rust is involved I have concerns with it even being straight graded.
Photo's showing this area would be helpful.
Neither coin should be graded similar coins can be bought for less then grading fees.

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 Posted 12/04/2020  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver Nickel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks MS 62-64
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 Posted 12/04/2020  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
H - your coin on the bottom has the 'Trail Dies' phenomenon.
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http://goccf.com/t/384178&SearchTerms=trail
Yes, thanks, I am aware of it.
an curious what value this would represent, IF any?
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 Posted 12/05/2020  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing comparable for these two coins.
Looks to me like a planchet flaw on the reverse of the OP's MS coin.
Looks to me like there is wear on the second coin, the hair over the Queen's ear and the beaver's tail.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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my coin came from a brand new unopened (until I opened it) original roll.
Received this and 25 other rolls with a collection. Opened it about a year ago. Gave some of them away as examples of guaranteed uncirculated coins. First considered having some graded. But then my economics mind kicked in and that thought vanished as they would have had to grade at minimum 65 to be ahead of the game.
so, If there is wear on it, maybe Santa had used it before.?
Miracles do happen, right?
actually , all I wanted to know (considering the trail dies) if it would be worth to have graded if grading would be under $10.
SPP was the only reader who correctly Id'd it.
so the question is not what grade is it, but is it worth grading under the now revealed secret. And, perhaps what would the value be?
BTW, I have seen 53's without the trails ICCS graded as 65's and 66 in worse shape than mine.
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 Posted 12/05/2020  11:11 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry H but ICCS would not put " Trail Dies "
on a certificate . They don't grade errors or similar.
Maybe CCCS would ?
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 Posted 12/05/2020  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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a brand new unopened (until I opened it) original roll.

The mint did not issue coins in rolls in 1953.
Coins left the mint in bags.
Banks and other services rolled coins back then, there is absolutely no assurance that all coins in a roll from that era are MS, they can contain both mintstate and circulated coins.
The only way to be sure is to examine each and every individual coin.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 12/05/2020  11:33 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
" The mint did not issue coins in rolls in 1953.
Coins left the mint in bags.
Banks and other services rolled coins back then, there is absolutely no assurance that all coins in a roll from that era are MS, they can contain both mintstate and circulated coins.
The only way to be sure is to examine each and every individual coin."

Absolutely concur , you can have ORIGINAL unopened Bank Rolls from the 1950s and 1960s , what's inside may surprise
the heck out of you! Recently bought 5 rolls of 1967 Fish Dimes ( Bank of Montreal VANCOUVER).
Cracked them all , 4 were straight 1967 , one was very mixed mostly earlier worn 800 fine ! Bonus.
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As you guys know, "young" coins are not within my interest.
all I know is that I received these as part of a collection I purchased and there were rolls, many of them.
just a little while ago I came across the trails.
Pacific, I am not sure if I will get it graded. maybe it is not worth the effort? even CCCS will take around $ 8-10.
I have other 53's from the same roll without trails.
so, whoever rolled these was probably not aware of it or did not care.
there were also vanilla high grade 67s dimes and quarters. some a sort of diving cougars and very interesting toned dimes. all were in High grade rolls.
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