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Another 1859 Canadian Cent. Possible Brass? Pics Incl.

 
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 Posted 01/12/2021  10:53 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tskinny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey everyone ive got a 1859 coinn here that ive taken some pics off. very different look from the 1901 version I have here.
The 1859 I have weighs at 3.8? I'm guessing due to loss of metal, however does it look any different from any other copper version to your professionals?

Please see attached pics



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 Posted 01/12/2021  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tskinny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
another pic to show thickness on the 1901.

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 Posted 01/12/2021  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 01/12/2021  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An 1859 should weigh 4.54 g and they were 1/3 thinner than all cents from 1876 and later. It should have a diameter of 2.54 centimeters. When they made them, 100 would weigh exactly 1 pound and 12 strung together was a foot. Your coin does not look like an inch in diameter. The 1901 & '59 should be the same diameter and yours doesn't look like it. Brass or bronze, the dia was 2.54 cm and your weight is way off. Your coin has been in contact with a cleaning agent that has turned it yellowish. If you think it's brass, you will need an XRF, but I wouldn't spend much money to check it .... too many red flags.
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So, what are your thoughts as to what could have caused the reduction in weight? Also what gives with the thickness? It doesn't appear top have lost any detailing to make me believe it's been ground down over .5g.

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 Posted 01/13/2021  07:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1858 & '59 large cents were 1/3 thinner then the British half-pennies that they were intended to be compared to. They were the same diameter as the half-pennies, so they were struck on the same mint presses in London, but made of 95/4/1 bronze rather than the pure copper of the half-pennies. When Canadian cents were next struck, in 1876, the Canadian cents were exactly the same dimensions as the half-penny, again struck in London or Heaton. As far as the weight, I'd say that it's your scale that's wrong.
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 Posted 01/13/2021  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tskinny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its a digital scale so it zeros everytime I turn it on. So we all agree this isn't a brass one? lol. We can all wish. I will eventually get it tested so I know for sure.
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