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1968 S Doubled Die Obverse Penny ?

 
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 Posted 02/16/2021  05:04 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coop76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
It sure looks like theres extra material there or could this be a SMS,? It sure looks different than the rest of 68 s pennys I have like the letters and numbers seem fatter







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 Posted 02/16/2021  05:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 02/16/2021  05:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coop76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Medium date ? Or Machine Doubling?
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 Posted 02/16/2021  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no medium date, it is Machine Doubling. I can see why you would question the doubling tho.
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 Posted 02/16/2021  08:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like MD to me as well.
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 Posted 02/16/2021  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MD. Normal date.There are numerous examples of this type MD doubling for this year and mint mark.
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 Posted 02/16/2021  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A noted already it is Machine Doubling. Machine Doubling is really common on the 1968-1972 cents. In 1973 they tried something different that year with the strike, (thus the tall rims on the 1973 cents) that fixed the issue a bit, but we still see it on even the current coins. Which having a lower profile, allows this to continue, but the years I mentioned earlier had a lot of Machine Doubling. Even the big DDO on the 1969-S, most examples show Machine Doubling on them:

Note the hub doubling on the dates? Then note the yellow arrows. Note it only affected these in the same direction? That is what Machine Doubling does. It affects the outside devices, flattening that area (reducing the devices) in a direction. So on a coin that has Machine Doubling, the direction is across the whole coin in a direction, not affecting the other areas of the single devices.
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 Posted 02/17/2021  05:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coop76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok so the big 69 DDO has Machine Doubling as shown in your picture above and it's still the DDO? Or you mean the big DDO has both the double die and Machine Doubling on the outside of edge of numbers and letters my coin the 68 is only showing Machine Doubling like pyrite is to gold close but no cigar? I had to re read your response several times but I think I understood that when
]at the coin or the 68 s I posted was a match and I look again and the picture seem to match up these pics here are strait from copper coins varieties and I get confused ? These pics show Machine Doubling but are the DDO? Forgive me I'm learning or trying too anyways


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 Posted 02/17/2021  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Or you mean the big DDO has both the double die and Machine Doubling on the outside of edge of numbers and letters.
Yes. It is a doubled die, with Machine Doubling. The MD doesn't cancel out it being a doubled die.

The 1968 was listed as a doubled die, but later determined that it is master die doubling:
http://doubleddie.com/814639.html
Note on the description that all mints were included in the master die doubling?

This is not Machine Doubling. This us doubling that was padded down to the working hubs and the working dies from the Master Die. (So as many as 50% of the cents that year from all three mints could have been affected. If caught, the earlier, the the issue could be been cut short. Did it? I don't know)
While the hub doubling is on the edge of the devices, note that is doesn't create a flat area on the devices, like Machine Doubling does. Also it doesn't push the metal upwards like Machine Doubling can.

CoopHome: 1968 cents do have master die doubling on them
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Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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