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1968 Washington Quarter Clad Missing

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 Posted 04/05/2021  12:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Fredrocoinman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


How much does an error like this go for?

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 Posted 04/05/2021  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The cladding is still there and it is not an error.
That is damage from being punched with something and
pushing the metal out to the reverse.
Worth 25 cents.
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04/05/2021 12:19 pm
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 Posted 04/05/2021  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fredrocoinman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I thought I changed the topic name. I noticed the coin looked dented.The reverse is flat and in fact is a result of mint damage. Anyone have an idea what it should sell for?
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 Posted 04/05/2021  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. Not a mint error, PMD. Value is 25
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 Posted 04/05/2021  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is no way to be minting process. The whole mint do not has this kind of punch. Is 100% PMD. This remember me my testing of the air guns power.
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04/05/2021 12:53 pm
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 Posted 04/05/2021  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not an error, punched with something after, that's exactly why the other side is flat.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  02:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fredrocoinman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its flat on the reverse flush with the coin. Had it been punched, it would protrude past the rim or high point of the reverse side. To add to my observation the inner edge of the dent on the obverse side the metal does not appear stretched. The force and the direction if tooled punching that size would have bent the metal or caused protrusions. The coin is not bent or warped and the hole has been spread my force outwards not sagging in the direction of the force. A punch or anything hammered would need atleast the exact same pressure on both sides pressing the coin inwards. The replies prior to this response are incorrect. Sorry!I'm all for speculation but please understand the logic of my opinion. If you think its punched then replicate it identically and post your results.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exact weight please. 0.000 not 0.00 places please.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parnelli917 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
25 cents... or less. Possibly a well-word drill press result. Not a mint error.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The drill will not flat the other side.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Its flat on the reverse flush with the coin. Had it been punched, it would protrude past the rim or high point of the reverse side


If you're going to use a punch on the coin where are you going to put it? Are you going to hold in in your hand? No. Are you going to put a thick sponge under it? No.

You're going to put it on the hardest, flattest, surface you can find before you whack it. That makes it flat and spread out on the other side.

Instead of arguing with us, tell us exactly how this happens during the minting process.

Please resist the urge to look at a coin and ask yourself "What happened to this coin." This is the completely wrong question if you want to be a collector. You will drive yourself crazy. There are literally millions of ways to damage a coin.

Study the basic minting process a bit, then reprogram your brain to ask instead, "How can this happen during the minting process?" There is a finite amount of ways an error coin can happen. When you eliminate the minting process, you're left with damage no matter how it happened.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100% and I do not understand why when I put links from ANA mint production course, the Philla, Denver and San Francisco mint production with the way the dies are done, (1 and half or two month ago) was move somewhere and not put on the tutorial of the site?

Technology change but the chain of production not to much.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parnelli917 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@silvios

Not a drill but a drill press. A drill press would not only might remove metal without showing signs of displacement on the coin, it could also generate tremendous pressure. Enough to cause flattening on the reverse. This drill press on Amazon can generate more than 1.5 tons of pressure. https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Mac...p/B0756F2G3L

However, this is just speculation on my part. It is hard to know for certain how this damage was done. I'm just guessing.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parnelli917 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, if you look at the hole on the obverse, it seems to show signs of drill bit damage (shark fins) at various places around the hole. Again, just my 2 cents worth!
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 Posted 04/07/2021  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that are drills of 1, 2 tons. The fact it is I never see a drill to do an perfect convex hole, like half ball.

and even there will be a PMD, post mint damage so no interest for point of view of collecting. I do not thing the mints has a press drill there. Before for die production they use pantograph and now laser.

PS you has to accept the reality.
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04/07/2021 11:22 am
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 Posted 04/07/2021  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parnelli917 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@silviosi

You are right. The bottom of the hole doesn't look as pointed as a typical drill bit, although I have seen CNC machines with rounded heads. But it is clearly not damage done at the mint. PMD whatever it is.
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