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Questionable Authenticity Of Two Gold Coins

 
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 Posted 05/08/2021  06:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Thrawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hello! I've recently won this coin, but I doubt their authenticity.


im 99% sure that Ducat is fake, but I'm still doubt about ottoman Cedid Mahmudiye.



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The Ottoman coin looks good to me. Here is an example that sold a while ago, and the details line up well. Normally the mass would be around 1.6 g., but you should expect a bit lower for obvious reasons
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=956244

Real ones often show up holed, and unholed specimens get a considerable premium. Fakes are often off on some major details.

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im 80% sure that cedid mahmudiye is real now, but can that ducat weight 0.06g less than other ones? I'm pretty lost here now.

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Yes. Not unreasonable weight loss for the hole and wear (less than 2%).

The main design details (portrait, fonts, etc) on the AUstrian coin look OK to me. But not an area I know much about.
Also, I think I can see the base of an E at the bottom of the hole obv, which makes it Karlsburg mint: https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...2a1155061dd8

Maybe you can find a jeweler who would test it for gold content. And the other forum where you posted these has a lot of knowledge on central Europe, so you may get more confirmation over there.

Edit: I know a lot of collectors wouldn't go near a coin with a hole, but if you got these for close to melt, you've got a couple of interesting gold type coins there . The ottoman type with a hole like that just went for 80 euro in a recent auction (before fees).

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