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1967 Bobcat Commemorative 25 Cent Exceeds Tolerance!

 
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 Posted 06/01/2021  9:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
1967 Bobcat commemorative 25 cent EXCEEDS TOLERANCE!!!
This coin exceeds the tolerance by FAR!!!
Should read 5.83 grams.
+/- .02grams for 50 % Silver and
.04 grams for 80 % Silver
It also passed the Silver Test.
This coin have exceed .09grams.
More than 4 times the tolerance if 50 % Silver
More than 2 times the tolerance if 80 % Silver


Edited by ikuna
06/01/2021 9:42 pm
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 Posted 06/01/2021  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What I see it is a silver. the weight is ok for this kind of silver alloy. If you look on the others specs you will find that probably the planchet is thicker. This occur many time in this series.
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 Posted 06/01/2021  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Other thing it is the dirty. you do not thing this will be scaled?
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 Posted 06/01/2021  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silviosi ,So the tolerance guide is totally incorrect ?
Many times it exceeds the tolerance by 2 to 4 times ?

Then they should have not mislead so many people since this excess silver is common based on your knowledge.

Also it is not dirty. It is circulated.
Over .1 grams of dirt ?
I have many more dirtier coins and they are all within the tolerance range.
If it was under the tolerance range then you would have told me that it is worn.
I need FAIR critique .
I'm very disappointed with your illogical comments.
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06/01/2021 10:10 pm
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 Posted 06/01/2021  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Mint specs and collectors tolerances are two different things.
Collectors will tolerate +-5% before they take notice of a circulated coin, unless of course it's a wrong planchet strike.
You would have to weigh tens of thousands of these coins to establish it's rarity.
Till then it's interesting but not desirable for most.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 06/01/2021  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DBM it is the first time that I am hearing that out of the tolerance is still not good enough. So over 5% is the gauge
This would mean that a wrong planchet would be very hard to determine since many different planchets are under 5 % is weight difference.
I respect your comments nevertheless because it seems logical.
What I find unfair though, I had post a coin within the tolerance but just within.
I was told by folks here that it was still within tolerance hence not special.
I now post one outside the tolerance by as much 4 times and I am still told not specials I must pass 5 %.
It seems like I can never get credit for any coin that I post here.
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 Posted 06/01/2021  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There really is no magical tolerance # for a coin to become an error, but the weight difference will be large enough to be a wrong planchet strike as quarter on penny, nickel, dime, or foreign coins that the RCM strikes. Whether it's 4 or 6% weight difference the coin will look like a normal strike, most collectors if not all really don't care about minor errors, good thing with this coin is it's silver.
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 Posted 06/02/2021  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, so it exceeds the mints tolerance on weight....Good thing, you got more silver there......Bad thing, does this error bring any added premium above melt values? IMO, no because it's a circulated coin and I haven't seen any "heavy" coins in an auction solely for its weight..Just add it to your silver stack

Edited: FYI, I believe Silviosi works for the RC Mint, so I would put value in what he contributes.....just saying...
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06/02/2021 12:37 am
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 Posted 06/02/2021  05:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks.
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 Posted 06/02/2021  06:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I weighed the one I have on my desk, came out at 5.91, only a sample of one, but it wouldn't surprise me if more like it. I think it is either a PL or SP coin.
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 Posted 06/02/2021  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Purelywasted, that makes the most sense, because the coin stands out from the others with a glow. So you are most likely correct.
Either a PL or SP coin.
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