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Must Own World Coins For Collection $30 Or Less.

 
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 Posted 07/28/2021  11:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CambriaMarket to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey all, I just got introduced to some really interesting world coins (typically am just a US coin collector) and don't have a great knowledge base for other world coins.

I'm looking for easy accessible and affordable coins that you all think are musts or great for any collection - and typically can be found for $30 or less.

I am partial to coins with a unique history and/or unique appearance with a soft spot for thick and crude coins. However, anything goes! Let me know your thoughts, thanks in advance!
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 Posted 07/29/2021  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have been cherry picking dealers' junk boxes for World coins in the $1 to $20 price range for more than 40 years. I originally collected Australian and Roman coins, but now they are just part of my World collection that covers the whole of numismatics from when the first coin was struck 26 centuries ago.
Cherry picks, where I look for best value for money, are much easier to find, when a very wide net is cast across the whole of numismatics, covering all cultures.

Along the way, I have also accumulated quite a few pre 1950 proof coins, piedforts (essays, trials, patterns, and novodels)**, major errors, off metal strikes, and an extensive 'black' collection for my own education.

A major side benefit is that I have learned a huge amount about World numismatics, as well as World cultures and history.
Being a generalist, rather than a numismatic specialist, I acknowledge my due to the numismatic specialists here in the CCF, from which I continue to learn.

** they are all nearly much the same type of thing.
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 Posted 07/29/2021  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DO you have a preference for the era? "Modern" (after, say 1600), versus medieval? Or for geography? (Europe, Asia, etc?)

Add for the imagery? Do you like portraits? Coats of arms?

I recently acquired a couple of Papal States coppers (2 1/2 and 5 baiocchi) from 1796-97. These are large, thick copper coins
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86172.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces16936.html

From a historical perspective, these are among the last coins issued by the Papal States, which existed for a millenium from the 8th century until 1798 when a French army invaded and occupied, ending the period when the pope was also a secular sovereign who wielded significant power in European politics.
From a nuismatic uniqueness viewpoint, the baiocco (plural baiocchi) is an unusual denomination, only used in the Papal States (and its successor state). If I am not mistaken, it was one of the earliest decimal denominations in modern Europe
(1 scudo = 100 baiocchi), dating from the mid-1600s.
They can be gotten in average circulated condition for about the price you mention.

French Revolution coppers, a Georgian "cartwheel" and Victorian England also come to mind as more "iconic" world coins that can be gotten within that budget.

It will be fun to see what other suggestions you get.

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07/29/2021 12:11 pm
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 Posted 07/29/2021  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wizened to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My suggestion would be to first focus on a range of coins, such as:

Large copper coins
small copper coins
Large silver coins
small silver coins

Or medium size. And an age range. And a continent.

Smaller silver coins from 1850 to present (really mid-1960's at latest) is a very rich area and there are a lot of coins in that period. If you did former spanish colonies there are many many silver coins, and some good artwork on many of them. Plus many smaller coins can be had for $5-$20. For larger silver you would be looking more at 20th century. You can get a 5 sucres from Equador within your price range as well as Mexican Pesos, and a Peruvian Sol. But not in the best of condition.
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 Posted 07/30/2021  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add owatchman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you like thick coins, you might be interested in collecting piedforts. Another topic that you might be interested in is Indian Princely States. It's a large category, but could be well rewarding.
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With World coins, and indeed with all coins, condition for value is critically important.
When cherry picking condition by itself, can contribute to more than half of the decision to decide on a purchase, in the search for true bargains.

Even so, low value cherry picks can still be easily be found for a dollar or so, even in lower grades.
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 Posted 07/30/2021  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think "Unique appearance or unique history" can be at odds with "must have" which to me signifies iconic coin types that were often minted for a long period of time (hence they are far from unique in their appearance)

The coins I cited are more towards unique appearance and history, but are unlikely to be on anyone's "must have" list.

I think the UK cartwheel type would be one example that fits both notions and would probably be one of the top choices for a "large copper example.

There are other threads out here where similar lists have been compiled. "Small silver" for example, could be a medieval penny/denier/denar, which would be considered a "must" for any collector going back to medievals. Large silver could be something Spanish colonial (though not with a $30 budget). As mentioned by others, there are famous 19th century large silver coins that can be had for a fairly small premium over bullion.



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 Posted 07/30/2021  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like big 19th century Russian 2 kopeks. 20g and much bigger in diameter than a silver dollar. Cartoonishly big. You can find lots on the bay, starting under $5.

The real prizes are the Pavels, with the big pi letter. Here's a nice one right at your price point.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/163649356765?LH_BIN=1

"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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07/30/2021 3:58 pm
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 Posted 08/02/2021  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yet another vote for the 1797 cartwheel penny. If you can, get a twopence, but I'm not sure if it's doable under $30.


Definite must-have for any fan of large thick crude coinage: Russian copper 5 kopek of Catherine II, 1762-1796 (and/or of Elizabeth, 1757-1762).
The type was minted in huge quantities (in Yekaterinburg, at least), which accounts for both its relative crudeness and relative cheapness; and in terms of sheer size it's probably the chunkiest coin you're going to get anywhere near that cheaply (nominally 51 grams and ~41 mm, but both figures are more like averages, and real coins can easily vary up to 10-20% off on either).

Lots of other big chunky copper from the Russian Empire (as other commenters have mentioned), but nothing else comes close to the Cathy fiver.
(There's a few much scarcer types that are the same size, and one very rare type that's larger; everything else is smaller.)


Chunky and with unique history, but will probably only show up in low grades at this price level: the 2 sols coins from 1791-93 (also comes in smaller denominations), the last types of Louis XVI before his untimely death by guillotine.

(Goes well with the slightly scarcer, but even more interesting, post-guillotine 2 sols, which no longer depicts a king.)


that Indian princely states (and Indian coins in general, for that matter - e.g. Mughal) are a good category to look for when it comes to thick crude coinage at reasonable prices.

Note, however, that 1) there are approximately no must-haves in this area, and 2) attribution will be an absolute pain.


Some oddball suggestions - none of those are what I'd call a must-have:
- Byzantine "big M" follis, 6th century
- Byzantine anonymous follis, ca. 11th century
- Swedish 2 öre silvermynt, 18th century - this or similar
- if you manage to get a hold of a 4 skilling banco, go for it

I probably missed many more that I just didn't think of immediately.
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 Posted 08/02/2021  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a group of the spooky "Table de Loi" French Revolutionary sols. The table is worn smooth at your price range and looks like a tombstone.



The big one is a 2 sols. They were made out of any metal available, often from melting church bells. The different metals make the color highly variable, and the strike is almost always terrible.
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