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Confirmation On A 1700's Jeton? Several Questions

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So I am not to sure where I got this, but I have had this for a while. I looked online a number of times but got several near misses on this. The obverse reads LVD·XV·D G·FR·ET·N·REX, and the reverse reads RECHEN·PIENNING with an MCI at the at the bottom. So I guess the LVD·XV is for Ludwig XV(15) or Louis 15th from 1715-1774? Is the FR short for France? On the reverse, if this is French, then what is up with an alteration of the German pfennig spelling unless this was issued in a border with Germany? And I have no idea what the MCI stands for or means?

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It is a Nuremberg jeton, or "rechenpfennig".

Nuremberg was the centre of token-making in Europe, with various rival families making and selling tokens, for whatever purpose the token buyer wished to use them for. What they were most likely to be used for, depending on when they were made. Jetons were initially made for use on a "counting-board", an abacus-like device which was used to aid in currency conversion back when currency was predecimal and maths had to be done using Roman numerals. But in later centuries, they found use as card game counters.

Your "MCI" is probably supposed to be "HCL" - Hans Christian Lauer, being the last and perhaps greatest of the Nuremberg dynastic token issuers; he mechanized and industrialized the process - though as you can see with this piece, quality control was sometimes lax.

Though your jeton depicts the French king, it likely was not used in France; jeton-making was a royal monopoly in France there were strict controls against importing Nuremberg jetons into France.
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As Sap has already pointed out, this is a German jeton (thank you Sap for the information about the use and manufacture of those!).

Since you asked about the inscription: It is in Latin and reads Ludovicus XV Dei Gratia Franciae et Navarrae Rex (Louis XV by Grace of God King of France and Navarre). The portrait seems to be of a young Louis, and a possible prototype is this louis d'or from 1718: https://www.cgb.fr/louis-xv-dit-le-...62477,a.html
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Yeah, thanks to both of you, I thought the obverse was a Latin motto, and I thought one of the earlier searches (this was a few years ago) of mine brought up a Nuremberg link.
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