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1921 Peace VAM H1: Proof Or Business Strike Grade?

 
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 Posted 08/26/2021  9:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jaberwoke to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I hope someone here has the knowledge to answer this question as it's probably a tough one. Opinions are also welcome.

From my research, it seems all "proof" 1921 Peace dollars came from the VAM H1 die set. I've looked at nearly every "proof" graded and "MS" graded V-1H examples available on the Heritage and Sacks & Bower websites as well as PCGS and NGC graded PR and MS coins.

My question is:

What differentiates the "Proof" grade from the "business" grade "MS" strikes?
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 Posted 08/26/2021  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaberwoke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just as a side note, the one and only "Matte" PCGS graded PR64... on sale at eBay for $288,000,,, is a VAM 1H if you examine the Coinfacts photos.

How did the die change from Matte to Satin and then to a business strike?

Anyone? Anyone?

Buhler? Buhler?
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08/26/2021 10:06 pm
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 Posted 08/27/2021  05:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a note: proof is not a grade, it is a process of minting a coin. Special dies as well as special planchets and additional tonnage is used.
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 Posted 08/28/2021  10:36 am  Show Profile   Check collectinsince65's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add collectinsince65 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent questions. As John said proof is not a condition but rather a striking process. Attached is a link to VAM world. And all known 1921 Peace dollar varieties struck from dies which were originally used to strike proof 1921 Peace dollars. As John said pressure/tonnage used is the difference in a proof quality and business quality. And the die preparation before striking is the reason for the difference between a Matte finish and a Satin finish.
Here's the link

http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...of_Varieties
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