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1954 D Struck Through/Minor Lam + DDO-005 (I'm Guessing Not)?

 
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 Posted 11/27/2021  07:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So the first thing I'm curious is what exactly is on the 4 in the date. At first, I thought it might be a stain and tried to remove it with a toothpick gently, but nothing changed. So I came to the conclusion it was either a struck through of some type, or a minor lamination.



The second thing in question is the possiblity that it is a DDO-005. Now, I think this is likely, and that what I'm seeing is well placed staining. However, I just want to make sure.





Now again, I think this is staining, but because the only photo I could find of this coin was from VarietyVista, I didn't have much to go on, nor did I know what it looked like it later stages.

So I just wanted to make sure my thoughts were correct before I moved on.
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 Posted 11/27/2021  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me it looks more like a contact damage where the metal was flattened and spread similar to the lower bar in the E of LIBERTY
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 Posted 11/27/2021  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Chase! I greatly suspected it wasn't the DDO-005, but I just wanted to make sure, thanks again!
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 Posted 11/27/2021  11:43 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I recently attributed a few DDO-005 in a slightly later stage than the one on VV. The reverse markers are present but faint, while the obverse marker is still pretty strong. The doubling over the L is pretty hard to notice, and the bit above the I is starting to get swallowed up with the die wear, but the bit above the B remains strong. Hard to tell for sure if yours is staining or doubling, but I think in-hand you could use a porcupine quill or similar to see if it is raised above the B. I chucked one of these in with the current bulk lot I have on ebay but I don't do close ups for those, so here is a quickie close up through the slip to show what it looks like a little later than the VV images.

1954-D Lincoln Wheat cent doubled die - DDO-005


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 Posted 11/27/2021  11:48 am  Show Profile   Check VestigeWolf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add VestigeWolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See, once again to subtle for me. I would have missed it. But you're right, looks like lamination on the 4.
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 Posted 11/27/2021  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for that explanation Keith, your assistance is seriously appreciated. The image and description of the doubled die gave me a good idea of what to look for, as well as checking the die markers.

Thank you Vestige!

Dearborn, will do.

Okay so, I followed Bats' smart idea and took a very thin tip and carefully moved it across LIBERTY, getting a hand on things. I also had my microscope pictured on top of it so I could see exactly what I was doing. To my surprise, I was able to actually feel movement on the top of I and B of LIBERTY, right where the supposed doubling would be. It seemed that the L was too faint to notice however, or it wore away with wear. I also checked for die markers, and while most seemed to be gone, one of the key ones which was a die scratch across EPU, was surprisingly present.

So in despite of my initial conclusion, I do believe this might be a legitimate DDO-005, at least, in my opinion.
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 Posted 11/27/2021  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Check sheldius's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats then Silvercents. Always nice when a hunch pays off.
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 Posted 11/27/2021  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looked good in your pics which I why I figured I'd egg you on to check it a little more.
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 Posted 11/28/2021  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Sheldius, it sure does!

I thank you once again for pushing me forwards Bats! Not sure if I would've been able to "confirm" it without such.
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