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Is This An Overdate Or Not?

 
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Australia
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 Posted 01/30/2022  04:48 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dolores to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all,

I have a 1933 Australian Half Penny. The 2nd 3 in 1933 looks exactly the same as the one I just found on-line for sale. The one for sale states it's an overdate 1933/32. Is mine an overdate?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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 Posted 01/30/2022  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...could be,need a close up USB Pic. of the final 3 to be sure.
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 Posted 01/30/2022  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly ... if indeed they do exist? https://www.drakesterling.com/19332...te-halfpenny

I did a comparison of your coin with a known overdate/variety graded by PCGS and a standard 1933 half penny from Museums Victoria. https://collections.museumsvictoria.../items/57452



At first glance your coin looks more like the PCGS than the Museums Victoria but as both 3's on your coin appear to be thicker it's hard to know. Maybe it's just the result of wear, keeping in mind that the PCGS coin has a MS64BN grading?
My main concern is that the '3' your coin doesn't appear to be wide enough on the front of the top curve but maybe this is due to lighting.

Closer examination with a loupe might provide some certainty.


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 Posted 01/30/2022  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That little upward spike from the bottom tip of the second 3 makes me think the die might have been retooled.
And the thicker upper loop curve tends to support that thought.
Describe it as if there were no picture.
Picture it as if there were no description.
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 Posted 01/30/2022  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
That little upward spike from the bottom tip of the second 3 makes me think the die might have been retooled.
And the thicker upper loop curve tends to support that thought.


Yes,this discussion regarding the 33 Half Overdate has been going on,to my knowledge,since the 1960's and revived again early 2000's and given some credibility by Ian McConnelly.
They were definitly experimenting with the Hubs/Dies back then but not everyone can agree to what extent.
Our little group up here on the North Coast of NSW(Aust.) have found over 20 different final 3 Dies on the 33 Half,(thank you USB Microscopes)no one seems to know why they would do that other than experimentation during the Depression.
I've posted many of these egs. on the OZ.Coin Forum but will do the same here when I get the time.
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01/30/2022 6:04 pm
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Australia
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 Posted 01/31/2022  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dolores to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Haha just Googled "close up USB pic" as I've no idea what that means and all I got was lots of close ups of USB's.
I'll borrow my friend's camera that takes macros and see if I can get a better picture.
Thanks all.
Dolores
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 Posted 01/31/2022  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dolores to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey guys and gals!

So I've taken several more photos. Not sure if they're any better but hoping someone can enlighten me.

Thanks in advance.








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 Posted 01/31/2022  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes,looks like one of the 1933 half overdate varieties,tip showing from top loop.
I would buy a USB Microscope,A$20 on Ebay,they can focus in on minute detail a camera(mostly) can't.
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01/31/2022 9:07 pm
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Australia
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 Posted 01/31/2022  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dolores to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Basil
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