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Been Looking For A Book Like This For A While, But I Have One Now.

 
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 Posted 02/03/2022  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm unable to view the image, Dearborn.
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 Posted 02/03/2022  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Image fixed.

I had to rename the file. Dearborn had consecutive hyphens in the filename. The forum does not like that.
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 Posted 02/03/2022  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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consecutive hyphens in the filename. The forum does not like that.


That's a nice piece of information to have. Thanks jbuck!
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 Posted 02/03/2022  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That's a nice piece of information to have. Thanks jbuck!
You are welcome.


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 Posted 02/03/2022  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add owatchman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice. I need to pick up a copy sometime.
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 Posted 02/03/2022  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add currencyden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The last one issued was the 25th Edition in 2019. One would assume it will be the last.
Quite a few of the old pdf versions of the three issues (Specialized, General, & Modern)are available at very reasonable prices.
The million dollar question is "what to do for any world notes issued after 2019?"
>> Use a made up "Pick" number. Epic fail, with no consensus it's basically worthless.
>> Use specialized catalogs for each country. Accurate, but only collectors specializing in that country will know this reference.
>> Use the Bank Note Book numbering. Accurate, with a cross reference to Pick numbers for pre-2019 notes. Downside, yearly fee.
>> Use Numista numbering. Accurate, with a cross reference to Pick & other catalog numbers. Free, but not all notes listed, thought new issues are better represented.
At the end of the day, losing the de facto general catalog causes long-term damage to the collecting community.
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 Posted 02/03/2022  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This book is now out of print, and supplies are dwindling. Amazon is selling the paperback version (like mine) but the CD version is gone. (as far as I can tell).
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 Posted 02/04/2022  09:43 am  Show Profile   Check walk2dwater's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found several used copies (& PDF files) listed on eBay:
https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_nkw...bd0870f185ac

I agree with @currencyden's observations. I have little experience with the Banknote Book & dislike more codes (& # systems) plus subscription fees.

Personally, I'd rather have the hard copy (& have the 24th Ed for Modern/ 16th Ed for General Issues) than a PDF. I try to update the prices in my book (as they're pretty dated) & have found it very helpful.

As far as online resources go, besides bank note museum:
http://www.banknote.ws/
I also use Numista:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/in...?ct=banknote
plus banknote index:
https://banknoteindex.com/
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 Posted 02/06/2022  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Orac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have the final editions of the Modern, General, and Specialised Editions of SCWPM, the first tow as both book and cd versions.

I have the cd versions on my iPad, very useful for going to shows.
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 Posted 02/06/2022  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Orac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@currencyden
In terms of post-2019 banknotes, numista is starting to emerge as the front runner, imo.
I dislike anything based on a subscription model.

Btw, I also still also have my first ever version of Pick, 1984 Ed, I think. It was just the one volume back then!
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 Posted 02/06/2022  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add currencyden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know what you mean Orac! I had been collecting world notes for some years before the first Pick came out. What a revolutionary change. Remember, this was before the internet. You had no or little idea what a note was going to look like when you bought one through the mails. Most coin dealer didn't carry world currency. Now you had a common numbering system to use & what it looked like, even in glorious black & white. Approvals were a great option back then. View the notes at your leisure, then send back any you didn't want. My kids enjoyed this method of buying & we all looked forward to the next mailing.
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 Posted 02/07/2022  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dispargum to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Bank Note Museum started to use new numbers following the Pick system. I have all three WPM catalogues mentioned as well But it is handier to use the pages of the Bank Note Museum.
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 Posted 02/07/2022  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Check walk2dwater's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But it is handier to use the pages of the Bank Note Museum.


I'm a big fan of the online resources (as, yes, they're very handy) but just a word of caution:

Nothing surpasses the SWCPM hard copy.
I have read a lot of criticism over these massive books, over the past 3 years. All in all, I feel that they're very informative & your 'go-to bible' when it comes to world currency. I'm really happy that I bought the two catalogues. Let me give you just a few reasons why.

First: I was interested in bidding on an Albanian mismatched serial number. When I looked it up in the SCWPM, I discovered that more notes had mismatched serials than matching serial numbers. This warning note in the SCWPM saved me $ big time. I felt a bit bad for the person who got into a bidding war on this Albanian typical note as they had sunk hundreds more than what the note was worth (I remember it was like a factor of 10X the BV).

Second: I have seen several collector's sets & specimens which are valued much less than the issued notes. While many of the Book Values for notes listed in the SCWPM can be outdated, it still provides a fairly decent ballpark figure (where to start at least) for estimating a note's value. It has helped me a lot in that way (though I know there are better more up to date online guides but they require a subscription fee).

Third: The online resources usually don't get into replacement note data (what distinguishes a replacement) since some countries are "Z" or "W" prefixes while other nations are even more complicated than that. Here's a thread at Collector's Universe on World Replacements.
>apparently I'm not allowed to link this site<

Anyway, I just added a replacement note from Finland (which I discovered has a "99" SN code through the info provided by the SCWPM). There was no info on replacements in any of the online resources I had checked.

There are other reasons which I won't go into here but the catalogue has helped me appreciate what has been undervalued as well as shapes some of my collecting goals, just to name a few.
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02/07/2022 5:02 pm
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