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1797 Cartwheel Penny Bronzed Copper Or Fake?

 
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 Posted 04/18/2022  9:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lamsdorf to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi Guys

I inherited this coin and it appears too good to be true, is it?

36mm Diameter, 28 Gram weight

Thanks for looking.



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 Posted 04/19/2022  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good to me Lamsdorf. These were made when the value of the coin was equal to the value of the metal it was struck from. Copper was cheaper, so the coins were bigger!

Needless to say they weren't terribly popular as they were inconvenient to carry around. Many were saved as souvenirs such as yours. However many suffered damage at the mint. They were large and heavy and dints from other coins as they were bagged up were common. Yours seems to have escaped that.

Nice example. Looks to be a genuine coin to me.

There are a number of different varieties depending on the number of leaves/berries in the wreath on the King's head/ portholes on the ship. And patterns as well. However I have no experience of the series so can't say more than that.

Hopefully one of the experts will be along later and can give you more info. Were there any details with it? Where it was bought or anything?
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 Posted 04/19/2022  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm definitely not an expert so I can't say if it is genuine or not. The weight and diameter are right and it looks ok, but if you compare the detail of the king's hair or the ship on the reverse it doesn't seem to be 100% (although that could be the light) https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces947.html

I'm also unsure what you mean by 'bronzed' - it seems only proofs were bronzed.
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 Posted 04/19/2022  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Tom. Looks like a regular issue 1797 penny in great condition.
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 Posted 04/19/2022  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lamsdorf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for looking guys, nice to know its probably real, lol.
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 Posted 04/20/2022  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Fakes are generally in great condition while real ones are not, so it's worth being cautious!
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 Posted 04/25/2022  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zookeeperz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not a fake it's the light setting. That is one excellent 1797 Penny I should know I have a nice one myself
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 Posted 06/11/2022  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin but cleaned. Looks genuine to me.
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