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France Cinq Centimes 1855 and 1856  

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 Posted 02/15/2009  01:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JOE to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found two interesting french coins, Can I get a grade on both please? I recovered both out of another foreign coin grab bag, and out of about 10 frence centimes, these were the two that appeared to grade more then "very good."

This is the 1855 one.

This is the 1856.

Also, I noticed something on weird on the 1856 coins mintmark, Is it double struck or does it just appear that way because of the condition of the coin? Thanks in advance.
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02/15/2009 02:00 am
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 Posted 02/15/2009  09:32 am  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would grade the 1855-W (Lille mint) as VF-25, by US standards. And the 1856-K (Bordeaux mint) because of the several large scratches and what appears to be corrosive activity as F-12
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02/15/2009 11:43 am
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 Posted 02/15/2009  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The eagle on this coin is quite striking in MS:

I'd call the 1855 Fine and the 1856 Good.
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 Posted 02/15/2009  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd call the first one VF or at least very near VF. A grading key for these is the outer-edge feather detail on each wing of the reverse. When those edges are completely flat, you're in the F-VF territory. On the other hand, the obverse looks pretty strong--note that the beard lines below the lips are still there, which is usually not the case in low grades.

The second is definitely not getting above Good, with the apparent corrosion and deterioration marring an otherwise decent-looking pair of surfaces--after all no. 2 has better wing feathers than 1!
As for the "K", I don't see doubling, but the effects of corrosion and wear.
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02/15/2009 8:07 pm
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