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1909 Trials, Patterns And Experiments At The Mint

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 Posted 09/16/2022  8:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add philoponus6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Are there any available resources about any experiments the mints (Philly and SF) performed prior to releasing the 1909 VDB. I have read that the mint frequently experiments with various alloys when there is a change in coinage. I am particularly interested with any new alloys tested during that era.
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 Posted 09/16/2022  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting question.
In parallel,
the documentation relating the St Gaudens $20 has been thoroughly researched and published.
it could be reasonably expected that documentation relating to the 1099 VDB One Cent coinage and alloy experimentation may also exist, but I do not know of any published data.

Perhaps the ANS may have some published information that could be re researched.

If not, new research could be done, but that will require researching US Mint archives.
Almost certainly, the ANS would be happy to publish the results of any new original research relating to this subject.
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 Posted 09/17/2022  01:24 am  Show Profile   Check BadThad's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only thing I can recall off the top of my head is they experimented with using the proof sand blasting method on business dies. There is some anecdotal evidence for this as some 1909-1910 coins exhibit matte-like fields. It's also speculated they retired the proof dies after the runs were finished and used them to mint business coins.
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 Posted 09/18/2022  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ballyhoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Having checked in my copy of United States Patterns, Experimental, And Trial Pieces- J. Hewitt Judd, the only 1909 cent pattern (J1780, AW- 1749) was composed of copper-nickel. The previous cent, dated 1896, had four composition trials. Nickel, pure nickel (magnetic), bronze and aluminum. I mention this because, although not listed in the book, it is plausible that other compositions could have be experimented with in 1908/09 but not recorded or simply lost.
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