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Data, the initials are the same on WAM and CAM. You might be thinking of the 88 with 89 rev. They call 88s CAM but they are all WAMs. |
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@CUJohn, I think the info I posted is accurate when researching it as the Close AM/Wide AM 1992 have different FG initials on the reverse. In 1993 the reverse side design of both business strikes and proof coins transitioned from the Wide AM as normally found on 1992 and prior cents to a Close AM design. However a few 1992 cents were produced with the newer Close AM design of 1993 instead. So you will notice the Wide AM (normal) 1992 and 1991 Lincoln reverse if you look at it has the Wide AM image of the FG - it has a serif on the G. It is the extra metal that points back to the left and is also closer to the base of the monument. If you look at the 1992 Close AM or 1993 it has the Close AM image FG which looks different and easy to tell apart once you know the difference in the two. Yokozuna just mentioned this also as far as the closeness of the FG to the base. In 1988 rare alternate reverses from both the Philadelphia and Denver mints were produced where the A and the M were Wide as normal but the FG initials were close to the memorial rather than far as they should be for that year (which is what you mentioned). These are 1988 coins with the transitional year reverse of 1989. This variety has sometimes been unfortunately called the 1988 Wide AM even though a Wide AM is normal for that year. https://www.lincolncentcollection.c...amwideam.phpI know  Edited by datadragon
09/22/2022 8:10 pm
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@cujohn initials are not the same on WAM and CAM. WAM has no serifs and no hook on the G. The FG on the WAM is also closer to the memorial building than on the CAM. My best finds: 1996 DDO-001/FS-101: http://goccf.com/t/3720661995 DDO-001/FS-101: http://goccf.com/t/3760711983-P DDR-002/FS-802: http://goccf.com/t/4297271972-P DDO-008/FS-108: http://goccf.com/t/4055581972-P DDO-002/FS-102: http://goccf.com/t/4294271988-P "Reverse of '89": http://goccf.com/t/3993902000-D Maryland Quarter Rotated Die http://goccf.com/t/394553 |
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Here is my documentation concerning this coin  |
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The second coin , which I assume is yours is a Close AM, facts... |
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ya I'm confused a bit, from the photo it looks like the AM are touching for Op coin, but the FG is normal.
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Better images for the FG and AM areas would be helpful. From what is posted, the FG looks like it has the serif which is found on the Wide AM, and is not the Close AM variety (which has a different reverse/FG which is the same reverse found on a 1993 Lincoln cent)  |
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This is why we ask for one coin per thread. Two or more make the conversation confusing very easy. [:i]
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Not sure why anyone is confused. This coin does not appear to be the 1992 Close AM (with reverse of 1993) cent. Perhaps better photos would help others to make an opinion as it is a valuable coin if it was. To make it easier to understand: It should be called 1992 (Reverse of 1993). In 1993 the reverse side design of both business strikes and proof coins transitioned from the Wide AM as normally found on 1992 and prior cents (such as looking at a 1991 reverse also) to a Close AM design. However a few 1992 cents were produced with the newer Close AM design of 1993 instead. So you are looking for a 1993 reverse on a 1992 for the 1992 Close AM. If it has the standard 1992 Wide AM reverse (same as reverse of 1991) then its not the 1992 Close AM. |
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This is the normal reverse for the year ( WAM). The edge of the building lines up with the center of the G initial. (Look at DataDragons images of the CloseAM and WideAM and you will see the position of the "G" in relation to the end of the building.) To the OP, you may have your phone too close to the coin when taking the image. Closer isn't always better. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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not sure why you need to be condescending datadragon, like I said in my comment, from the pictures provided it looks like the AM are touching but the FG looks normal.
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Not intending to be condescending @Hermz and wasnt directed at your post specifically. I was just adding some info generally that since the entire reverse is different on the 1992 Close AM (Has same reverse of 1993) instead of the standard reverse of 1992 which is the same as the reverse of 1991, I thought it might help others to have other ways to properly identify besides just the AM which seemed to be confusing sometimes (not just here) without sending it in right away. You are correct that the photos currently make it difficult to help give the poster a accurate answer, and that would be important to give a 100% accurate answer as the coin is quite valuable if found to be a 1992 Close AM. |
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