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feel free to call me Will. I'm a 22 year old collector/dealer from the Greater Toronto area
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MS60
Edited by tripoli 11/29/2022 12:57 pm
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A few nicks here and there, but the luster looks good. I'll take a swing at MS62, maybe even 63.
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Ms62, great detail on the canoe. Would almost say SP, except denticles and rim on obv.could just be a really well struck coin that was beat up.
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I'll say AU-58 The signs of handling are everywhere.
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I'll say AU+ as well. It's been in more than a few pockets and shows only minute signs of wear, such as aft on the canoe, a little of the hair by the ear and the eyebrow.
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Looking forward to these results, may finally settle the criticisms surrounding ICCS once and for all....or not. 
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Agree. Surely this cannot have been graded MS.
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Will , you are thinking this is a slightly impaired Specimen ? Certainly has strong Sharp and square obverse dentils and devices .
Edited by Pacificoin 11/30/2022 6:27 pm
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I agree with Jack. SP-63.
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Seeing as specimen coins are Dollarman's specialty, I think Pacificoin and Bosox are right, but we'll see what ICCS says...SP-62?
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The part that is throwing me is the denticles and overlap. Not sure if a specimen would have these.  The strike is very nice, love the OBV.
Edited by purelywasted 11/30/2022 6:51 pm
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Some good guesses..and as expected, all over the map. The coin has identical die diagnostics to specimens and has more reflectivity and rim definition than any mint state coin I've seen. Reflectivity and strike like this simply doesn't exist on pre-war dollars aside from some 1939s..and even then such a full rim is never encountered.
I am confident in the specimen status of this coin and it is quite a discovery as I did not buy it as a specimen.. meaning it represents a newly discovered example of this very rare issue. Unfortunately, she has definitely lived a rough life and in my opinion only grades around SP-62/SP-63. I think the surfaces are still there for 63 as some leniency is placed on such large coins in SP and they need to be virtually ruined to achieve a grade of SP-62 or lower. I think this piece may have been purchased in 1938 from the mint then found its way into a tin with other valuables..where it got a little beat up from sliding around unprotected then eventually got dipped once it made its way into a dealer's hands.
It's noted in the Norweb catalogue that before the Norweb SP-67 hit the market, even the existence of a gem grade example was doubted. Since that statement, there are only three above the SP-64 grade...out of 10-15 examples out there. I say all this just to clarify to those less familiar with this issue how unbelievably rare it would be to come across a coin that wasn't to some degree mishandled.
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