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2017-S Ellis Island Quarter (Type?)

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Found in pocket change. The coin has an almost proof-like gleam, even the reeds are super shiny and sharply struck. When I started looking it up, I realized that there are way more variations of modern quarters than I knew about. Is this just a super-nice circulation strike? I looked at the proofs and special strikes, but those appear to have frosted devices and frosted raised areas. This coin is a smooth, uniform gleam.

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S mint mark, proof. Weight?
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5.71g

The edge has a bright copper sandwich, I assumed it's standard cupronickel clad.
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Proof was my original assumption but apparently there were S regular strikes. https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...nd-np/653199 .... but limited mintage under 1m.
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Proof was my original assumption but apparently there were S regular strikes.
Correct. Sold direct from the Mint.
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Thanks jbuck for the clarification, it makes sense now & Branmeister for bringing the coin to attention.... I learned something new today.
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So this is a business strike 2017-S, but issued for a set, not for general circulation?

That would explain the polished planchet and complete lack of Die Deterioration. It really looks like an old school proof, all gleam and no frost. I knew (because I own several) that modern CN clad proofs have those super-frosted devices and reverse perimeter, which is absent here.
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So this is a business strike 2017-S, but issued for a set, not for general circulation?
NIFC is correct, but they are not sold in sets. They were sold in bags (I think) and rolls. At least they are currently only sold in rolls, and you have to buy all three rolls together (one from each mint). For example...

https://catalog.usmint.gov/american...R_AWQCC.html
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Learning a lot about newer quarters today.

So what's the theory of selling low mintage very nice NIFC business strike S-mint quarters in rolls and bags? Are coin shops supposed to build sets out of them or something? It's not like the W quarters that were released into the wild as a treasure hunt.
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More information about the San Francisco business strike quarters, although it doesn't quite answer the question of why so much as what, how, when.

https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...-qualit.html

https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...remiums.html
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Just another way for the Mint to make money.

Dealers and others buy them, sort out the gems, maybe get them graded, and put the culls into circulation. Profits from the gems might pay for the losses, it is a gamble. There are dealers who sell them at the local coin show, usually a buck a piece. It is the only way I get them.
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Alas, I imagine that this one is not a gem, with that visible hairline scratch right across the face. Still a neat thing to find in pocket change! Thanks for the knowledge, Jbuck. =)
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Pretty cool find!
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Nice Find of this NIFC business strike quarter. Somebody must have opened a mint roll of these quarters and spent them..
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Still a neat thing to find in pocket change!
Indeed! I would not be throwing it back!

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Thanks for the knowledge, Jbuck. =)
My pleasure.


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Somebody must have opened a mint roll of these quarters and spent them..
I hope they first found an MS-70 or three out of that roll for the privilege.
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