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 Posted 03/10/2005  9:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Thought I would let all you darksiders out there know a very unique coin has just been offered by the Australian Royal Mint and it is ON DEMAND only. You must order, here in the states by March 20 through Downies Lmt and the price is $66.00. I would seriously recommend this coin as most Aussue coins with limited issue are very good investments in a very short amount of time. This is one very nice looking silver and gold plated coin and its 50MM size is almost overwhelming. Got to have this one!!! See info in Coin World March 21 issue in the International section. Time is limited to order!
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 Posted 03/11/2005  02:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SFDukie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Terry
Here's the Downies link
http://www.downies.com/northamerica...il_order.asp

You might clarify that this is a private company authorized to sell the Australian coinage- for those of us accustomed to buying directly from the mint, the concept seems strange.
thanks for the tip.
Can you tell us which coin?
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It is a silver dollar replicating (or commemorating) Austrailia's first gold half sovereign. It is absolutely striking (no pun intended), struck in silver and the gold half sovereign is plated in gold (center of the large 50MM coin) so that it actually looks like a half sovereign floating in the center of proof silver with an outer band of matte silver surrounding that! The 2005 silver dollar will also mark 150 years of the Sydney Mint. Check it out at Downies Ltd website. Thanks for pointing out that Downies will be the official distributor here in the states and YOUR order must be placed by the 20th. See https://www.downies.com The Royal Australian Mint website shows an international price of $72 if I remember correctly so Downies would be the prefered place to order.
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Pretty coin. $66 plus S&H. Link here:
http://www.downies.com/northamerica....asp?id=1310
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Downies does a good job supplying Australian Coins at a reasonable price.
BUT
Since they are a private house representing the Mint, sometimes they go a bit too far.

They have in the past taken some coins and sent them to the UK to have them colorized. When the Mint found out they had a fit and declared the coins Not legal Tender and had Downies return them.
(Silly because once a coins is legal tender it should always be legal tender)imho
There are still some floating around on ebay. (I have one)
I always check new offerings against the mint site to check the correctness of the coin ( even so the colorized coin I now have is worth more as a collectors item than as a normal part of a set.)


I have had nothing but GREAT experiences with Downies and their staff.
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So rggoodie are you BUYING in to this new silver dollar? I assumed we would hear from you concerning this offering but did not realize you would go through Downies to get your Aussie coins. Figured you had a collecting friend WORKING at the Royal Australian Mint by now taking care of your Australian collecting habits? (Just joking of course, but boy wouldn't that be great!) What are your feelings on this new dollar as Downies HAS NOTHING to do with this product except distributing here in the states?
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 Posted 03/12/2005  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of course I bought it but some feed back to be considered
Taken from the Aussie coin forum
Looks like this coin belongs in the $10 series with the $10 2002 Adelaide Pound and $10 2003 Sydney Pattern. But this one is a $1 coin and is the 2005 Subscription coin.

it should have been part of the $10 series
Just some history.
There was a Pattern 1853 Half Sovereign as there was a Pattern 1853 Sovereign. These pattern pieces were produced in England. From reading the brochure this coin commemorates the 150th anniversary of these two coins to be actually minted in Australia from Australian gold.

To quote the box of the 2003 $10 issue "This fine bi-metal proof $10 coin commemorates the 150th anniversary of the design and minting of the Pattern design for the first Sydney Mint sovereigns"

A very fine point of difference between the 2003 - $10 commemorative of the 1853 Sovereign
and the 2005 - $1 commemorative of the 1855 Half Sovereign.

We seem to be commemorating nearly the same event, two years later.

In another two years time, 2007, I now expect that we will have a 150th anniversary of the 1857 portrait change of Queen Victoria.

Another point. This is a Subscription dollar, which is suppose to limit the mintage by subscription. Although we did witness, last year hundreds being returned to the mint for sale later in the year. The Mintages usually range from 13,328 to 21,791 for Subscription dollars.

Book value on these coins have all increased over issue price, BUT anyone who visits ebay knows that you can get any one of this series for less than Book Value and most less than Issue price.

The Similiar 2003 $10 Sydney Mint coin, with a limited mintage of 10,000 has just managed to hold it's Issue price on ebay. Of course Book Value is higher.
You can pick up the 2003 and 2004 versions of the 'subscription' coin on ebay for below issue price. I suspect this one will go the same way even though it is a better coin. It seems evident that the Royal Australian Mint’s policy change in making this 'subscription' coin available to and through dealers effectively killed off any premium these coins might otherwise have had.
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 Posted 03/29/2005  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Watching Downies service
Downies has now pulled out of their California shop and have their phones forwarded to Australia.
The answering machine takes messages and they call you back.
I'm very sorry to lose the personal service, but I am still talking to the same people on the phone only it is at their convience not mine.

they are a great source for Australian coins, but now I will be sharing a little more of my business.

I hope they come back.


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Received MY my HUGE coin today! And, must say I am very impressed with the craftsman ship from the Austrailian Mint. Final figures for this On Demand Issue was 11,845 (if I remember correctly). The coin has great eye appeal and due to its huge size (50MM) it is just stunning lying there looking up at you. These will be in this household for years to come! Will try to post a photo if my wife will ever take the time to train me!
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 Posted 05/23/2005  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gregk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi from Aust,

Yes, a great coin. You may know that the $1 subscription series, minted to order, started in 1996 with the 30 years of decimal currency (1966), and have been issued since (except 2001) for various themes. The only complaint that I have is the change to a larger size coin that occured in 2003, when the RAM changed the coin to the size of the $10 types. But, still a great coin. Glad you got one!
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Silly me I ended up with TWO of them
One for each eye to look at I suppose
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 Posted 05/23/2005  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gregk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two? better than one.
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 Posted 05/24/2005  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SFDukie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day Greg!
Welcome.
Even though rggoodie lives on the opposite side of the dateline, he's an aussie expat. We have a few Australian collectors on the board and would enjoy your input as well.
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 Posted 05/24/2005  05:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gregk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Don.

Very many thanks for the kind welcome - most appreciated! When I first saw the forum, I wondered what the term "darkside" meant, now I know. Its amazing what knowledge can be learned from the information provided. I am also collecting the United States State Quarters (an excellent program I think). I've seen some posts from RG and MikeQld, both very knowledgable people.

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Greg
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 Posted 05/24/2005  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome Greg, Great to have another Aussie and a darksider on board! Actually we have two of the commemoratives here as well but my wife won't let me lay claim to hers!!! You know the old saying, Whats mine is hers and whats hers is hers! Seems to work out that way at times. If there is any way I can help you out with any coin needs, feel free to email as I trade all over Europe and have bought a few items from Austrialia as well! Guess I am trying to help all the economies in the world the best I can. Look forward to hearing from you!
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G'day Terry, Thanks also for the kind welcome. The Darkside? That's the second time I have heard that term (LOL). On my office floor, we have two groups. The long term planners sit on the west side, while we grass routes, service delivers sit on the east side and see the sun first. We're normally in from around 6-7AM, and the planners don't show until 8-9, and their side is usually in darkness until then. With coins, mainly Australian decimal, I do buy some pre-decimal when I can get it at a decent price. With the dark side, my on-going plan is an uncirculated set from every country. I also plan to obtain 6-7 sets of the State Quarters.

Have a good one

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Greg
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