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A Coin Theory I Am Wondering About Regarding Doubling On Newer Coins.

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Images provided are TrueView images of a 2022 D. Lincoln shield. With the newer technology being introduced throughout the years, I am wondering if the Okuma LT2000 EX horizontal lathe with its twin spindles and four-axis operations which was introduced in 2012 replaced the older model cnc that only was able to do 3 axis's for the dies created another type of doubling with the 4 axis cnc capabilities. Look at the B in Liberty, it has a doubling like look and it just makes me wonder if the designs and wording on the newer coins coming out our purposely Beveled with a smooth transitioning upward/downward edge that barely makes lettering look fatter and creates a Mirage like reflection for any type of light intensity or angle that blends in compared to the doubling that occurs before 2012. Obviously the Mint doesn't like making mistakes because it makes them look bad, so what if they designed it to make it even harder for doubling to be seen if the alignment is a little off, but it's just a theory I have been wondering since I've been looking into some of there new practices. A few other places the same mirage like look can be seen in a few other places. Hopefully the images are high quality.

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To the OP:
Your theory sounds, sound, something to look into.

However all through the US coinage production all the devices are tapered. Thicker near the field and thinner at the top. This allows for easier release from a die.
From what I have observed it that on the older (Pre 1983 _ half of 1982) were coins consisting of Copper (95% copper, 5% Tin/Zinc) alloy, these coin allowed for sharper devices especially on the lettering because they took the shape well without much issue.
However on 1983 onward (part of 1982) started with the sharp issues, but slowly changed the design to bore rounded devices because the Mint learned that the Zinc plating was splitting on the sharper devices as compared to the more modern ones of recent years. I think if you were to look , you will notice that the more modern pennies don't have split plating as much as the older ones.

So, in my opinion, the rounded devices are looking to be doubled because we do not see a distinct change from the top of a device to the side or at the bottom on the field.
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Not sure about your theory and the newer shield cents are really tough to get good photos of without having "lighting induced doubling". That being said, there are several similar DDR's listed for this year/mm, varying slightly.

Wexler Link. https://doubleddie.com/2912137.html
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