Belgium - John II Of Brabant, Brussels Or Louvain

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Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2885 Posts	Posted 06/20/2026 10:58 am Another unusual recent pickup. It's a Stirling imitation penny (Crockard type) by John II of Brabant, Brussels or Louvain.ca. 1296-1300 Obverse: +I DVX LIMBVRGIE; — Bust facing, wearing chaplet of roses. Reverse: DVX BRA BAn TIE; — Long cross dividing beaded inner circle and legend I think this is John II rather than John I because of the decoration (two pairs of small "x" either side of the initial "I") while John 1 appears to have annulets either side - but happy to be corrected. John II coins of this type doesn't seem to be on Numista. (John I coin is here - https://en.numista.com/441636 My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Edited by Bacchus2 06/20/2026 11:06 am Report this Post to the Staff

tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7953 Posts	Posted 06/21/2026 08:36 am Both variants are attributed to John I. Witte doesn't split them, but Mayhew does. The annulet punctuation (I have one of these) is Mayhew 44. The stacked saltire punctuation (yours) is Mayhew 43. I will add a dateline to the Numista listing to split them. (Edit: now completed) Edited by tdziemia 06/21/2026 09:13 am Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2885 Posts	Posted 06/21/2026 3:32 pm That's great. Thanks very much for looking into that. Not having the proper references is always a bit limiting. I seem to be causing the Numista referees a lot of work... :) My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
tdziemia Pillar of the Community United States 7953 Posts	Posted 06/21/2026 3:50 pm No problem! At one point I looked into the "Sterling imitations" for the low countries issuers. Brabant, Flanders, Hainaut and Luxembourg all struck them in pretty large quantity based on their availability at auction. I've bid on a couple of Hainaut versions but not yet succeeded in winning one. Added: I don't have Mayhew, but have done a lot of "reverse engineering" using attributions in auction sales by auction houses I trust. For southern Low Countries (Brabant, Flanders, Hainaut, Luxembourg) it's Elsen. Edited by tdziemia Yesterday 06:57 am Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188952 Posts	Posted Yesterday 09:45 am Very nice! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
chrsmat71 Pillar of the Community United States 4966 Posts	Posted Yesterday 9:09 pm Cool coin Bacchus! I stumbled on this beer named after John I, cheers! Report this Post to the Staff
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