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 Posted 07/10/2010  8:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I collect OFEC silver Crown sized coins, which I have always assumed to be around the 38mm diameter size.

But other collectors say 33-34mm diameters can also be considered "crown" sized.

which has now got me to really reassess my collecting thread

Need help, your opinions or thoughts on what's diameter size range for a "crown" coin ?

Thank you
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 Posted 07/10/2010  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think that near crown is 35-37MM and crown is 38MM
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 Posted 07/10/2010  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe there's a strict definition for the "crown size". Here's a wikipedia article about British crowns and within it it says:

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Numismatically, the term "crown-sized" is used generically to describe large silver or cupro-nickel coins of about 40 mm in diameter.


It's always "plus-minus", and every collector can determine his/her own limits for the size. I've heard some dealers call the cartwheel penny of 1797, 36 mm, a "copper crown".

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 Posted 07/10/2010  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way, the British (silver and Cu-Ni) crowns, from which the name came, were up to 45 mm hammered, and 38 - 41 mm milled. Since George III starting in 1818 the crowns were of a standard size 39 mm.
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 Posted 07/10/2010  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add turtleoverhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my "cat among pigeons"

Koruna = Crown from Czech Republic, size 20 mm


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 Posted 07/11/2010  03:41 am  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I consider any coin at 38mm and above to be crown size. The British Crown is 38mm and so is the US Silver Dollar. While Taler coins can be 41mm and above.
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 Posted 07/11/2010  04:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My personal definition: if it fits into the largest-size 2x2 (39mm), it's a "crown". If it fits in the next size down (35mm), it's not. If it's too big for a 2x2, it's a "maxi-crown".

I definitely wouldn't include coins as small as 33mm. That's "halfcrown-sized".
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 Posted 07/11/2010  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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... if it fits into the largest-size 2x2 (39mm), it's a "crown". If it fits in the next size down (35mm) ...


Next size 2x2's is 37.5 , or, at least, that's what I use.
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 Posted 07/12/2010  04:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add molydeii to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slav, I suspect you use Lighthouse brand. :) Same here too. 30, 32,5 35, 37,5 and 39mm
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 Posted 07/12/2010  04:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for those clear inputs
very interesting indeed

am now revising my thread to include half crowns (33mm thanks Sap, and below) as there are unavailable crown size for some countries (India is one) which really makes the thread impossible to complete

How does that sound?

Its become a toss up between a collection of:
crown sized (and incomplete OFEC)
Or complete OFEC but mixed sizes

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 Posted 07/12/2010  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fireandice556 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice collecting strategy! No limit particular period?
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 Posted 07/12/2010  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Slav, I suspect you use Lighthouse brand. :) Same here too. 30, 32,5 35, 37,5 and 39mm


I used to do "supersafe", they have same ten sizes from 17.5 to 39.5, but my latest experience was underwhelming. Recently I switched to the Lighthouse brand and I love it.
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 Posted 07/13/2010  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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My personal definition: if it fits into the largest-size 2x2 (39mm), it's a "crown".

Define "fits". I can put a dime in a dollar size 2X2.
Gary Schmidt
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 Posted 07/13/2010  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Define "fits". I can put a dime in a dollar size 2X2.


Ah...but the dime also fits into the next size down, so Sap would say it isn't a crown. :)

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 Posted 07/13/2010  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 07/13/2010  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We're talking about the "best fit", like regression in Statistics.
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