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Code Breaking For Silver Part VI | Winner: Rikcando!

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 Posted 01/08/2011  9:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
It's time again!


Another code to break!


This time it's for an 1882 O Morgan.


Code-Breaking-For-Silver-Part-VI-|-Winner:-Rikcando!

Code-Breaking-For-Silver-Part-VI-|-Winner:-Rikcando!



So, all you puzzlers come on out!

(I personally think this one is EASIER than previous ones. But I haven't posted a code to break since 7/7/2009 so I may not remember right!)

Notes:

The words and the sentences are not separated from each other (yet anyway).

Punctuation is not included.

This quote is from an American.

It is a 29 word quote with the speaker's name included.


The rules:

1. You must have 50 posts to win. (If the last post you correctly guess the code is your number 50th, it counts!)

2. Guess as many times as you wish.

3. You may ask questions and I will answer them (not always, perhaps cryptically, of course, but truthfully when I answer).

4. I will post hints periodically.

5. I plan to run this until someone breaks the code.

6. The decoder shall explain the encoding in order to win the Morgan. (i.e., the code should be broken in order to win, versus a lucky guess at the quote.)

7. Unbridled and unremorseful jocularity and fiery, button-pushing, yet thought-provoking jibes at other code-breakers are highly encouraged!


So....




XIYCJ4
6EL6ZG
FVR7SS
GP7M9D
YIZN8L
BQEI1C
MABO8R
G3AGDT
7K3NNX
PS3CYP
PVD7AP
JOCH9G
QSB9DG
R9HLHC
GY6ZYF
4DGVZK
JGKRNF
KRGPRX





99ZRON
XLYO5R
X2PRHR
ZT13RS
A613RH
J9GR4D
RCEA6R
5PALNM
FS3MGM
WT7ANK
VO7K9F
2OA6FY
M5SOIJ
PTNNRV
MPRTLN
DKD3BF
SRJJDG
WRZLRE

DGVZVN





3YRPZM
SRD8GN
JP1YRH
NNEW9R
W3EM6R
GI7LAC
F17UNR
VEZE4S
1OI8OS
GAR3EH
88NTRU
D4ZN9N
VBCLSM
PO9SIM
GUS3NG
TFDGVF
RHRZUR
VFMHRP
Edited by Moe145
01/08/2011 9:18 pm
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Quote:
7. Unbridled and unremorseful jocularity and fiery, button-pushing, yet thought-provoking jibes at other code-breakers are highly encouraged!


Also known as the weavus rule!
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 Posted 01/08/2011  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wolf-n-wa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OH-Heck, would love to win this thing but this puzzle is way beyond me. WOLF
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 Posted 01/08/2011  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollSeeker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A few questions:
So exactly how does this work? It looks like the code is separated into three sections, and piece of the code is 6 letter and numbers. Do these sections and piece refer to sentences and words? Do the numbers vs. letters refer to differing letters through the quote? How is it possible to find how many letters are in each word? Is this a simple alphabetic cipher or do the substituted characters change throughout the message?
Now if you're able to help a newbie with all those questions, maybe I should send YOU a prize!
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I got it. It says "THERE IS NO WAY IN HECK YOU ALL ARE GONNA FIGURE OUT THIS PUZZLE BECAUSE I REALLY DID NOT WANT TO GIVE THIS PRETTY COIN AWAY ANYWAY"
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[quote Unbridled and unremorseful jocularity and fiery, button-pushing, yet thought-provoking jibes at other code-breakers are highly encouraged!
][/quote]

I was going to ask, but I'm so glad I know what the weavus rule is now
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When I checked this code this morning and saw 6 posts, I said, someone has already solved this!

But most of the posts commented on the 'Weavus Rule"!


But there were some questions.


Quote:
So exactly how does this work? It looks like the code is separated into three sections, and piece of the code is 6 letter and numbers. Do these sections and piece refer to sentences and words? Do the numbers vs. letters refer to differing letters through the quote? How is it possible to find how many letters are in each word? Is this a simple alphabetic cipher or do the substituted characters change throughout the message?


1. I can't tell you exactly how it works. That would be cheating...

2. The code is divided into 3 rows of 3 (total 9) sections. That is intentional and eventually will help to solve this.

3. Each word is complete in the code but may be combined with other words. i.e., the phrase "The dog is lazy but smart" could be split into sections like "thedog", "islazybut" and "smart".

4. There are 29 words and the quoter's name contained in the 9 "squares" so obviously there is more than one word in each "square".

5. Some numbers mean different things than the letters. Some mean the same. (I know...)

6. At this point there is no way to determine how many letters are in each word. There is a way to tell where to start the code.

7. Once the "squares" are solved, the code is a simple substitute cipher. (I couldn't be too mean!)

FYI: Once I explain this (or you figure it out) you will kick yourself on how easy this code is...

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Quote:
"THERE IS NO WAY IN HECK YOU ALL ARE GONNA FIGURE OUT THIS PUZZLE BECAUSE I REALLY DID NOT WANT TO GIVE THIS PRETTY COIN AWAY ANYWAY"



Nice guess! (It is a pretty Morgan...!)



But no, sorry this is not the coded phrase.




edited to add the no.
Edited by Moe145
01/09/2011 1:45 pm
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I see this turning into a 'How I spent my summer' project. Quite intriguing but your use of the term 'row' in your clarification has me a bit more confused than clarified. That is not to say I'm giving up though.

Nice coin too.
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Maybe a "row" is a code for a "column"?
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I am hoping that you are right svslav because that is the direction I am starting with. I have noted the number of spaces before the code sections which I am using to convince myself that you are right.
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Quote:
The code is divided into 3 rows of 3 (total 9) sections




Quote:
Maybe a "row" is a code for a "column"?



FYI: I was not trying throw anyone off with my use of the word "row". All I was trying to say was there are 9 sections or "squares".

as in:


x x x
x x x
x x x


More FYI: When I designed this, the "squares" were all symmetrically spaced. When I posted it on the Forum, the posting program skewed the letters & numbers around so the spacing was not as apparent. I had to space them out much more so the spaces were very apparent. That's why they're biased left/center/right and cover the page. This is only to make sure you all note the 9 distinct sections.

I don't know if that helps or not...
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01/09/2011 1:51 pm
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And people complain about Mastermind!

Still working on the mind-bender, but for your reading pleasure, here are a few of my favorite Dan Quayle quotes:

"Welcome to President Bush, Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts."

"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."

"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."

"It is wonderful to be here in the great state of Chicago."

"I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people."

"I love California, I practically grew up in Phoenix."

"For NASA, space is still a high priority."

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Ok, if we are just gonna throw out our own quotes, I think this one may be appropriate.

A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five. Groucho Marx

So, are you meaning that is looks like this?


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Quote:
So, are you meaning that is looks like this?



Yes.




(Someone page a "Party of Five"?)


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01/09/2011 5:32 pm
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