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... and I remember hearing a take that someone found a bayonet sticking in a tree about 50 foot up. ... They say it was stuck there during the battle and the tree just grew and the bayonet just got higher and higher
Bryan1315 That's exactly what it is... a take... a yarn... an old wives tale... a local legend/legacy. You can easily do an experiment yourself, and stick something in a small tree and see how high up it gets in 30 years... well, if you've got a few decades... Or, considerably less time, such as >>> A birch tree I planted about 6 years ago is now about 12 feet high. It started as a 2 foot potted sale item. The first branches are still at the same height above the ground as they have always been... as will be all the subsequent branches. How the bayonet got there is not really my concern... just this beanstock thinking of how a tree grows. Anyway, I'm not a tree expert other than being a northerner that used to be involved in a mechanical tree harvesting company... now called sustainable forestry. I won't comment any further on the matter, to each his own... or, if anyone is an expert on such matters, feel free to chime in. |
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IBGolden, I can't pretend to know how the wagon wheel got there about 15 feet up, but do know that it was also embedded..the tree was growing around it.I suppose it could have been a terrible accident or somebody put it there and the tree just grew around it.I haven't watched any trees for 50 or 60 years to really give the theory a test.
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I have.....the lower portion of a small revolver. it was corroded so bad it was unrecognizable as to what make or model
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United States
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About 5 years ago I was elk hunting... up on one of our large Rocky Mountains here... and after the moring walk... I went into a nice shaded creek area.. found a nice place for a rest and had a seat. After 10 15 minutes, I went to leave and looked to my left at a nice old tree, it was the type that was kinda split down the middle, and I saw a rusty looking pipe or something... after further review, I found that it was a barrel of a 22 cal. rifle... the wood stock had rotted away, and some of the trigger parts and such were down in the moss around the tree. Very cool find, I have the barrel at home, I'll try to take a picture and post it up here. Wish I had had a cell phone with a camera at the time, it would have made a great picture before I ripped it out of the tree.
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United States
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I have to agree with IBGolden. Some of the areas I hunt have old barbed wire fences that are embedded in trees. If the tree grew from the ground up, these fences would have been pulled up with the trees. Instead, they are running through the middle of the trees, still connected to the rusty fence posts.
Sure would be interesting to find out how these items made it to the tops of trees. I can imagine there are golf clubs growing out of the tops of trees in courses around the world.
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United States
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I dug up a little revolver a few yrs ago. It looked like a gun that the Mafia members used yrs ago. 8 miles from where the gun was found Al Capone used to stay at a hotel. I remember when I found the gun I was joking saying now I'm gonna find a body. Well a few feet away I found a human tooth. That was it for me at that area. All in all I pulled alot of good stuff out of there. 2 WWII nickels one in excellent condition, a few buffalos, an 5 ore from the 40s, many wheat cents, 3 scout pocket knives, a few lead toys, and a nice military button with an eagle on it.
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Canada
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From the land of the Bluenose...those are sweet and love the mount.. 22 cal Berreta only dug one here!
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United States
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I grew up on a large family farm next to the Manassas Battlefield Park, in Virginia. We found all kinds of things plowing and working the fields. Once we found a small single shot pistol, and another time we found about a dozen musket barrels all together as if buried in the ground to hide them.
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That's exactly what it is... a take... a yarn... an old wives tale... a local legend/legacy. You can easily do an experiment yourself, and stick something in a small tree and see how high up it gets in 30 years... I believe 230 years would be enough time for it to be up there quite a bit in a tree myself and that is how long it has been since the Battle in Kings Mountain started on Oct. 7, 1780 |
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I believe 230 years would be enough time for it to be up there quite a bit in a tree myself and that is how long it has been since the Battle in Kings Mountain started on Oct. 7, 1780
Bryan1315 ^^^ As botanical fact as opposed to theory... Please Google "How does a tree grow" (age determinate growth rings, et al) next time you get the chance. I don't wanna harp on this because it's really not a tree forum. Mann, I would be a burnout as a teacher... end the madness, frustration, pulling my hair out, etc. etc.   Quote:
Sure would be interesting to find out how these items made it to the tops of trees. I can imagine there are golf clubs growing out of the tops of trees in courses around the world.
StJoeBlues ^^^ Tornadoes, people tossing stuff as markers or not... regular shannanigans I 'spose. I have a couple of very rusty guns probably lost or left by hunters... not detector finds, but they are so far gone I wonder how long they were out there. The date on the receiver not being a real indicator, just when they were made, so they couldn't have been there prior to the date... but they look like something you'd pull from a shipwreck. >>> edit>>> Okay, okay, I couldn't resist... it's like unfinished business and I'm a Type A personality... some fine Government of Canada forestry information  VVV http://ecosys.cfl.scf.rncan.gc.ca/f...-eng.asp#006... and a couple of quotes from the fine folks at Natural Resources Canada (from the above link)  VVV Quote:
Trees grow in height through the elongation of the tips of their branches, but diameter growth is centred in the trunk. Because of this, if a branch is cut off near the trunk, the resulting scar will always be at the same height. Quote:
The trunk is the main stem of the tree; it supports all of the tree's weight. The trunk does not grow in height; it only increases in diameter (see How does a tree grow?). The trunk gets longer because the branches at the top get thicker and become the trunk.  If this doesn't help explain... well, there's still The Flat Earth Society... some minds are resistant or reluctant to grow... to grow... get it... to grow! I slay me! okay, humour can be patheticly low on my list of qualities  Edited by IBGolden
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All of the pictures are great, I really think I'm going to give it a shot this summer and get a metal detector
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If this doesn't help explain.. Actually it does...giving fact, then supporting evidence makes all the difference in the world.And that makes my guess about the wagon wheel a lot more feasable as ther was a 200 foot bluff near the tree..I can only imagine what a ride somebody took.Thanks for the info  |
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United States
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Not sure if I'm even in the right spot or not, anyway, I have a gun that I dug up about a year ago just recently had it checked out by a local professional who says that it is a mind 1800's military issue Remington 44 revolver missing the barrel,trigger,hammer,pretty much everything is gone but the frame, which is in really good shape(kinda leads me to believe that the gun was disassembled before it was buried)
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Those guns are interesting finds...and pieces of history! Quote:
That rocket makes me just a little more than nervous ... I think that one is a Russian mortar shell, but the primer and explosive are missing--not an UXB, thank goodness. |
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