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Gold! How Low Will She Go?

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 Posted 02/28/2011  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As an old commodity trader once told me, "Metals go up like a staircase and down like an elevator!"
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So if the gold market does crash.....how would you sell/dump 4 Billion in Gold? Is there a chance he is just saying that so no one will get nervous when HE starts selling?


Back when gold was highly regulated, there were lots of US gold coins in Switzerland. $20s used to trade around $60, but at one point some big holders decided to liquidate. Not only were there suddenly a lot of them on the market, but there was speculation that they were fakes (this was when the Omegas and/or Lebanese fakes were coming out). I knew a dealer who spent $15,000 (tremendous money at the time) on $20s at $49.50 per.
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I am one of those that was hoping gold would go down to....... well buy some more


Funny thing happens when it goes down....people usually stop buying it because they don't know where the bottom is...and if it hits $2400, you'll be wishing for $1400
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Settin at 1430 last glance, 20 bucks up to start the week, killin me....

I only have about a quarter ounce of gold, glad my last few purchases happen to be gold, as the coins on the way have increased in value before they hit my door step....
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As an old commodity trader once told me, "Metals go up like a staircase and down like an elevator!"


Not just metals, but any speculative item in a free market. Here's why:

Item goes from 10 to 20. Buyers at 10 won't sell, because it could go to 30. Buyers at 20 hold for the same reason. New buyers drive the price up for the same reason. It goes up slowly, because it's always tough to spend money, even on a "sure thing".

Over time, it gets to 40 and peaks, or even stays there for awhile. With no indication that it will go higher, those who got in at 10 or 20 figure it's a good time to take their profits. Buyers at 40 sell when they see they're not making anything. No one wants to buy, because if they didn't like it at 10 or 20, why do they want it at 40? Why buy something today, when it's obvious you can wait a few days and buy it for less?

Note that when it's going up, you have one group of buyers to absorb the general selling that comes from things like businesses in their normal selling cycle, estates needing settled, investors with goals based on time (kid going to college), or emergency selling to pay unexpected expenses.

When it goes down you have three groups of sellers, plus general sales (above), and the only buyers are those who can't wait for lower prices.

Thus, prices fall faster than they go up. Not just metals, but oil or other commodities, stock, etc. Just look at the 10 biggest daily gains in the dow, and compare them to the ten biggest drops.
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 Posted 03/02/2011  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ozzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
be careful of the market makers pushing up the price. They make more on the crash!
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Most of the climb today appears to be dollar weakness rather than mass buying. That is the reason I own gold,to protect purchasing power. Always pay attention to the "whys" of rises and drops, they tell you more than price does.
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OK, OK, I am officially "WRONG"!! It really looked to me like gold had hit a high a around $1400 and was dropping........ but it sure has come back!!
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 Posted 03/29/2011  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ms32462 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
gold will plumit back to 800-900 an oz then buy
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 Posted 03/29/2011  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add centsless to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish I owned more gold. I think gold is safe for a awhile. I have not talked myself into buying more. I can assure you all when I do, the gold market will sink.
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The Feds. are 'quantitatively easing' to get the economy going again. This done by printing more money, in a controlled manner. For this reason, the general trend in bullion prices is to rise. High volatility of bullion prices masks this.

In theory, this produces two benefits:

More economic activity means more jobs. Too many Americans are unemployed at the moment. More economic activity means stronger stock and property markets. That also helps the nominal value of my superannuation.

The U.S. gets to pay off its debts easier with smaller dollars. I used this method over 10 years to pay off my mortgage, by using inflation to my advantage. You need a debt, not an asset, to achieve this.

To those who wish to invest in bullion that is a bonus, but most financial advisers suggest that you have no more than 5% of your total investments in bullion.


BTW, numismatic and bullion values tend to be counter cyclical to the stock market. With declining stock prices, one of the investment target areas for cash realised from shares is in the numismatic and bullion markets.
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I can't see it dropping to less than 1087.00. For gold to drop like that, wouldn't we have to be seeing some kind of economic reform? (I'm no expert - that should be in my sig). But I can see it going to 1250.00 or 1300.00 in the next few months. In my lifetime I see it going to over 2000.00 but not all at once. It'll be very gradual and unnoticeable by the general public. By the end of the year I can see it going to about 1500.00 or hovering around 1485.00.

Lol don't ask me how I got those numbers. It's only fun.
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Being an old guy myself, I have to agree with BiggFredd. Heck, I can remember when a paper dollar and a silver dollar could be swapped one for the other at any bank. Just try that these days!
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I don't see how gold could take much of a price hit these days. There seem to be a lot of reasons for this. The Fed is pumping out new dollars 24/7 and will be until at least June. Other central banks are doing the same in their local currencies. The Indians and the Chinese are buying more gold and silver these days. At least one web site that I was reading a few days ago said that the cost of producing an ounce of gold was about $1,000. I am sure that varies quite a bit, so that's probably an average value of some kind. I would think that this would put a floor under gold prices at somewhere near the price of production.
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we will see what happens after Bernanke gives his little speech on april 27th and if he decides to do a QE3 then BOTH gold and silver are going to go UP UP UP!!
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