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I Have A Gold Exit Plan For Some Perhaps....

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 Posted 08/11/2011  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks GoThunder,

I guess either way has it's advantage and disavantage.
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 Posted 08/12/2011  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep in mind all, I am in it for the long haul as well, and have no problem with gold pulling back, as I would like to get much more, and not gonna sell at 2 grand like I mentioned in the start of the thread....

I just recall another poster saying they might wanna cash in on a new vehicle, and another who was tempted to sell, but the little greed voice in their head as they said, was telling them to hold on a bit longer, so the gears got to turning. Sometimes I am way to analytical for my own good, lol....

If you got in at 250, 500, or even 750, hey why not take some profit, but again with my simple long term plan of adding 5 grand worth of Pm's for about twenty years is good as well. No need to even look at the prices, unless you are about to buy, or here in 19 and one half years, when I figure it is about time to cash in, lol....

Things will come up along the way, an at times being far from set as many of you, I will have to sell some to stay afloat, but just a minor set back, as I will add it right back in due time....
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08/12/2011 12:11 am
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 Posted 08/12/2011  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A gold exit strategy, I never thought about it this way but then again I never saw a reason to.

First - EFTs they work for some people but don't for others. In the past EFTs have performed well mirroring the volatility of the asset class. They have even posted good returns with reasonable fees for storage and fund management.

However there are important issues with Gold / Silver EFTS that raise some concern. What is the physical PM's backing your EFT's. If it is a fraction amount of the physical gold /silver what is the difference between fiat dollars? today it is even worse with drastic fractional reserve banking backing your EFT's.

Thus a major collapse of the US dollar has a big unknown effect on your EFT's. Since EFT's do not provide third party independent audits to prove physical ownership of metal there could be major problems leaving you without your capital.

A big problem is the language of the EFT prospectuses extremely problematic. My bet is you will find that the EFT's are baked by the assets of the trust and not the underlying metal. You will also find such words as reasonable care and absolve the custodian of liability for any act of omission.

So be careful and understand 100% about your EFT's but clearly understand they are not the same thing as owning physical assets. It is an investment tool just like your mutual fund is.

Can you make a fast profit in gold & silver. Yes you can but the risk is very high. If your good you can flip and make money but your risk is high for a high reward. So in not so many words, DO YOU FEEL LUCKY?


Everyone has a different reason for buying PM's. There is the turn a fast profit crowd, safe haven crowd, world is going to end as we know it crowd, wealth saver crowd and people like me that have bought each month since 1980 and let it ride.

Personally I don't know what works for you. What I can say it took 30 years of hanging on to every yellow and silver piece of metal for things to work out for me.

What I know is that diversifying between a pension, 410k, property, PM's, Mutual Funds and earning (paycheck) far less than $100-K a year has worked out pretty well for me.

So do I have a exit strategy? Yeah sell when I feel I should diversify some of my PM in order to preserve as much capital as I can. For 20 years I bought a once each month at around $400 dollars give or take. Then is got a little higher but I still keep buying.

So my exit strategy is to keep a balanced and diversified group of investments to make sure I can meet my needs until I get too old to care.

My advice to someone young is save even if it hurts and diversify and keep saving because it will pay off in the end. If your looking for a fast profit make sure you can survive the risk. And last no I am not a fan of EFT's though they may fit what you are personally looking for unless the crap gets knock out of the US dollar.



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There are risks anyway you invest in gold. Lets look at the risks of owning physical.

You could get ripped off buying it (fake gold, counterfeit coins), you could get robbed buying or selling it (Craigs list). You could get robbed walking away from the coin store. You could get followed home from the coin store and robbed or your home could be cased for robbery when you leave. Even the best safes will be opened quickly when a gun is held to a loved ones head. You or your wife or kids could tell someone you have gold and they tell someone, they tell someone...etc. I was dining at a restaurant last week and a girl told everyone her mom has 20 Krugerrands. Even a safety deposit box has risks. Of course either way of owning it, the price of gold could collapse.

I'd say just don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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08/12/2011 10:34 am
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Even a safety deposit box has risks
What are the modern-day risks of owning a safety deposit box? I would think only when you go to or from the bank...
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What are the modern-day risks of owning a safety deposit box? I would think only when you go to or from the bank...


Ok, I was just looking at one this week. They leave the vault door open all day, now this might not seem too bad but we live in tornado alley and an F5 can completely wipe buildings down to a bare concrete slab. Also are they fire proof, what happens if there is a SHTF event and rioting in the streets, the power grid goes down...etc. will the vault be safe from robbery? You could get forced to go the bank and get it (again gun to loved ones head thing). Well you get my point.
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08/12/2011 10:49 am
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 Posted 08/12/2011  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brucec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I will probably not sell I am also in for the long hall, I just read a very interesting report from an investment news I get. Allot is over my head but what I got is this investment firm feels it is impossible to stop the trashing of the US dollar as the worlds reserve currency said it is happening already. This will make things worse there will be ups and downs but gold will in the long run keep going up to $2500 and then they said the path our government has been on it is impossible now to stop a default in our countries interest payments and allot of other stuff they talked about. To sum it all up things in the next year and beyond will get much worse pushing gold to even more unheard of prices $5000 and up.

Allot of what they said I see happening now all over the world and they claim we are next but hop they are wrong but impossible to stop the chain of events that will unfold in the coming months and two years.

They also said before the stock market will rebound but in the next months will take a HUGE dive unlike anything we have seen yet. (Who knows just their educated guess from the data and events they monitor)
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I'm looking at this pull back and trying to compare it to the last couple pull backs we had. Looking at the daily chart of GLD below we had a pull back around the 1st of May that lasted about 5-6 days and retested the low in mid May. We had another pull back in mid June that bottomed out the end of June. We were probably over due for a pull back so this one may go a little lower...maybe a 50% retracement of the move from July 1st to a few days ago. I'd say if GLD gets down to the 159-158 handle, gold (how ever you like to buy it) will be a screaming buy. That would be roughtly about $90-100/oz below the current price in gold ($1734). Any thoughts pro or con on that? Sorry if the months aren't clear, the first vertical white line is May, then each line is one month.

I-Have-A-Gold-Exit-Plan-For-Some-Perhaps....

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08/12/2011 12:15 pm
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 Posted 08/12/2011  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I feel that the economy is turning around (which I dont think will happen for quite some time) I plan on dumping all my gold and most of my silver and buying up as much rhodium as I can.
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 Posted 08/12/2011  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frazzle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After seeing the disconnect between gold and silver during the last gold rise...I would stay with gold....I think that when things really get bad,gold will be the rocket
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 Posted 08/12/2011  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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They also said before the stock market will rebound but in the next months will take a HUGE dive unlike anything we have seen yet. (Who knows just their educated guess from the data and events they monitor)


I can't see it because interest rates will stay at Zero for 2 years, Obama will make things look good before his re-election, and Bonds rates won't go any where? If anything do happen, maybe after this year.

And everything drops on December 23? 2012. The end of the world.
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 Posted 08/12/2011  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AuAg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only scenario I can see worth dumping a substantial hoarde for is: if one lived in an urban area, getting out and buying some rural property with timber water and tillable land. That will hold value.
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The only scenario I can see worth dumping a substantial hoarde for is: if one lived in an urban area, getting out and buying some rural property with timber water and tillable land. That will hold value.


That would be a good investment I like you already AuAg.
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 Posted 08/13/2011  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GoThunder - I looked at a Roth IRA as a single person - unfortunately I do not qualify :(
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No taxable income?


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According to Roth IRA rules, to be eligible to open a Roth IRA all one needs is taxable income. That income can be in the form of salaries, wages, bonuses, tips or professional fees. There are no Roth IRA rules that require a participant be a certain age to open an account. If a kid were really smart, he or she would establish a really good paper route as soon as they could and open a Roth IRA.
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