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Long before the Crusades, and decades before the more famous Norman landing at Pevensey on the English coast, Norman knights arrived in southern Italy intent on conquest. By 1066 members of the Norman Drengot and Hautville families had wrested the principalities of Capua, Calabria and Apulia from their previous Lombard and Byzantine overlords, and had gained a foothold at Messina for a prolonged struggle to take the island of Sicily from the Islamic caliphate. Pope Nicholas II had lent an air of legitimacy (or at least inevitability) to these endeavors when, in 1059 he invested Robert Guiscard (Hauteville) with the Duchies of Apulia and Calabria, and, aspirationally Sicily, should he be able to take it. The monetary landscape encountered by the Normans when they arrived would have seemed alien, coming from the silver-based Carolingian monetary system of their homeland. The northern part of their realm (toward Naples) used Byzantine (or Byzantine inspired) coppers and gold, and to some extent the small imperial (Holy Roman Empire) silver denari struck at Pavia and Lucca that circulated in nearby Papal realms. Southward, toward the tip of "the boot," and into Sicily, the circulating coin likewise included copper follari for small change, but also tiny (0.25 gr) billon kharrubas and Islamic quarter dinar gold coins of about 1 gram called robai (later tari), for larger transactions. The Emirate of Sicily had adapted the normal system of gold dinars / silver dirhams / copper fals to their local needs So, local models for coin designs were largely Byzantine (varied images and Greek inscriptions) or Islamic (no images, only Arabic inscriptions). For deeper background, see Grierson and Travaini, Medieval European Coinage, Volume 14 (1998). The remainder of this post and subsequent ones will list (with examples) some "firsts" or at least notable features of the coins struck by these rulers between their coming into power around the time of the Norman conquest of Engand, and their replacement by the Hohenstaufen in 1194. When the coin is not mine, copyright of the image owner is acknowledged. 1. Dated coins. Robert Guiscard was perhaps the first "western" ruler of the second millenium to date some of his coin types. As early as 1072 gold taris were struck in his name with their AH year spelled out in words (MEC 14, 66; N#558092):  Copyright Numismatica Ars Classica 2025 The central legend on the obverse has been translated as "By the great duke Robert, lord of Sicily," and the marginal inscription "Palermo year 464" though I expect the year is written out as four and sixty and four hundred. This type imitated the design of earlier 11th century taris struck by recent Fatimid rulers of the island, for example this tari of Al-Zahir (1021-1036; Spahr 25, #457156):  Copyright Aste Bolaffi Mid-12th century, Guiscard's nephew Roger II struck copper follari dated AH533 (1138-1139), possibly the first European coin struck with a numeric date, albeit in the Hijri system (the 33 is easily recognizable at the bottom right reverse, the 5 less so):   Next up: radically bicultural coin types. (This post contains no brain-rotting AI content)Edited by tdziemia 07/24/2026 09:48 am
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Great first post about Normal Sicily, tdziemia. If you have not already done so, read a bit about Roger II of Sicily. Probably one of the most enlightened rulers in Europe.
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Excellent article, tdziemia! Thank you for this eclectic education.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Nice history lesson. You learn something new everyday.
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Great post - many thanks.
And yes, quite curious about the number 5. At first glance the central part looks more like a 7.
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Very interesting history! Thank you for sharing it and all the examples! 
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Quote: possibly the first European coin struck with a numeric date, albeit in the Hijri system Possibly the first coin struck with a (positional) Hindu-Arabic numeric date anywhere at all, including Islamic regions; I've heard that some earlier examples exist but so far I have yet to find any specific ones that I could confirm. (AFAIK there were many much older marginally-European coins struck with dates in Roman numerals, or indeed in Greek alphabetic numerals [as opposed to dates spelled out in words]; the former were mostly regnal dates, though.)
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Thanks, all. NumisEd, I will keep an eye out for more on Roger II. Certainly the Normans inherited a cultural mixture far different than where they had come from. Only at the northwestern edge of their territory would they have felt the familiar themes of Roman Christianity. The eastern and southern parts of the mainland had Byzantine (Eastern/Greek) heritage, and Siciliy had been Muslim since around 850. Bacchus, yes I agree, the first digit looks more like a 7 or an 8 lying on its side. But, as we will see, this unusual combination of design motifs identifies the coin to this period in the south of the Italy. By AH 733 (1333 AD) the coins being struck were fully "western" in their design. 2. Radically Bi-cultural Coin TypesAs shown with Robert Guiscard's Sicilian tari in the first post, the Norman rulers started with stylistic "knock-offs" of coins of earlier rulers in the region, in that case of a Fatimid tari which was a traditional Sicilian type. Likewise, Guiscard struck copper follari on the mainland that hewed closely to recent Byzantine types, like this one struck in Salerno dated by Grierson and Travini to 1076-1085 (MEC 14, 68):  which clearly copied this Byzanine follis of Romanus IV (1068-1071, S. 1867)   But Guiscard's successor on Sicily, Roger I (1085-1101) began fiddling with the tari design, placing what looks like a letter T (or tau), but may have been a modified cross in the center of one side, while leaving Arabic inscriptions in place elsewhere on the coin, including even the Islamic profession of faith on the reverse (MEC 14, 83-86)  Copyright Numismatica Ars Classica 2025 Guiscard's successor in Apulia and Calabria, Roger Borsa (1085-1111) was more subtle, just inserting his Latin initials in the center of a traditional "bull's eye" Islamic design (MEC 14, 102, N#558732):  Copyright Numismatica Varesi 2023 As we saw at the end of the first post, by the mid-12th century, designs featuring an image of a Christian figure (in that case Christ), but with an Islamic legend reverse, had become common on follari. This one features St. Demetrius, a Byzantine patron saint, and an Islamic legend reverse (unfortunately illegible on my example) on a follaro thought to have been struck at Bari (MEC 14, 188):   (an example in better condition can be seen here: https://www.numisbids.com/sale/5764/lot/?lot=631)Finally, Roger II also introduced his own tari design, featuring Islamic legends on both sides, but a central design on one side of a cross with the Greek IC XC NI KI (Jesus Christ victorious), borrowing from a Byzantine follis design first used by Michael IV (MEC 14, 201-204m N#102756):  Copyright Leu Numismatik 2026 Enough for now on "Islamo-Byzantine fusion"  Next: New Denominations
Edited by tdziemia 07/28/2026 09:52 am
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Thank you for this latest contribution to your topic. 
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Some really cool coins tdziemia, and interesting post! I have a few "Christian/Islamic fusion" coins, but I really like that Roger II coin, very interesting how the obverse is clearly one and the reverse the other!
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Thanks. That was very informative. And has added another kind of coin for me to look for.
The small fatimid 1/4 dinar of Sicily appear here often. I have held several. Those norman ones, never. That transition coinage looks very interesting. Something similar with christian kingdoms issuing coins with arabic legends occurred in the Iberian Peninsula. And later in Morocco in the 1500s. The reverse had also happened after the visigothic kingdom fell to the arab-berber invasion.
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Regarding bi-cultural coin types, there are some great coins with a Latin obverse and Arabic reverse minted during the reign of Guglielmo II (1166-1189) and his successors.
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Thanks for the comments. Indeed this is not the only part of the world where cultural fusion between Christian and Islamic cultures was going on at this time. It's interesting that when Norman rulers became sovereigns of middle eastern states ("Crusader States") around the same time (c. 1100), there was a stronger tendency to adopt wholly Byzantine or European designs for the copper and silver coins. For gold, I have seen types that are described as imitations of Islamic types, rather than designs that combine featres of both cultures. I'm not very familiar with Iberian coin designs at this time, but am not surprised the coins would have shown the effects of the Reconquista. Quote: Regarding bi-cultural coin types, there are some great coins with a Latin obverse and Arabic reverse minted during the reign of Guglielmo II (1166-1189) and his successors Yes, pretty much every Norman ruler after Guiscard struck these interesting types. William II and Roger II were the most prolific coiners, so there is a great diversity of these types under them. SPOILER ALERT! It all came to an end when the Hohenstaufen replaced the Normans in 1194. The first ruler, Henry VI continued the mixed types in his first years, but they were all gone by the opening of the 13th century. But there are still a few more interesting developments to discuss.
Edited by tdziemia 07/31/2026 07:36 am
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3. New Designs, New DenominationsAround 1100, Roger I who was mentioned earlier as having put the first cross on a tari, introduced a large (10 gram) copper coin tentatively valued as a "trifollaro" (3 follis), with innovative designs front and back ( https://en.numista.com/103940, MEC 14, 93-101). The obverse has Roger on horseback, wearing a coincal helmet and triangular shield, with ROGERIVS COMES. According to Grierson, there is no template for this design in medieval European coinage (I think including Byzantine); he likens it to images of Norman warriors in the Bayeux tapestry, and believes it was probably a portrait of the Count from life.   The reverse featuring a madonna and child might not seem so innovative at first glance, but it is. While Mary had featured on Byzantine coins since the reign of Nicephorus in the mid-10th century, this depiction departs dramatically from the staid and formulaic Byzantine madonna (Mary seated, facing and very 2-dimensional, holding only a facing bust of the infant in her lap). The figure of Mary turned mostly right and holding the swaddled child is closer to later representations (e.g. Hungary) than Byzantine ones.   Copyright Classical Numismatic Group 2026 (This post contains no brain-rotting AI content)
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Very interesting and a nice example!  Quote: (This post contains no brain-rotting AI content) 
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