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Finland 1942 Markka--Shattered Die, Two Die States

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I just felt my earlier post deserved an update, when I found the same shattered die on a 1942 Markka, only an earlier die state Pretty cool to see!

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Sometimes similar damage patterns form on multiple dies as a result of a striking problem that is consistent to the dies. It may be a little extra pressure over that one area, who knows. I don't think these are from the same die. The biggest sign is that the coin on the left has an additional die crack running vertical from the bottom left rosette to the left tip of the sword. This is missing on the coin on the right, rather than being clearly visible in progression.
Also, the mint mark is a bit different on the two coins, beyond just die state.
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Thanks for your observation! I also saw a few inconsistencies, but just wondered if the die could really fracture so similarly above the "19", as well as crack across the lion's outstretched paw...in just the same way? Then again, there is a crack through the rosette on the left coin, that is absent on the right coin...so yeah, two different dies.
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A member on another coin forum posted these two coins as possibly being from the same die, but again you can see a difference in the angle and curvature of the crack. Also, the 2 in the date is a slightly different style, just as with the mint marks on your coins.

This is why I'm beginning to think the problem may stem form the striking process rather than the dies themselves. We often see coins that have excessive weak striking consistent to one portion of the design. It's very possible the parts that get the brunt of the force can fracture in similar fashion, especially with consistent post-industrial processes.

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