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You are correct again on #3. JangoFett you are getting good at this. Let the others post before you do just to give them some practice. Then before I give my attribution, see if you agree with the others.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm finding this fun and educational. I don't see myself as an expert, say like bobbyhelmet and Doug Smith, so I am learning as well.

JW
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 Posted 10/25/2011  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's CONSH and has a dot, then probably RIC 73?
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ric 163? from what I can see on this web page.
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 Posted 10/25/2011  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeah this is fun and I'm learning more then just reading posts
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Coin #3 is indeed RIC VII 73. There is a dot at the end of the mintmark. Very good eye.
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I hear you about giving others the practice. Didn't really think I was as good as I really am. Ok, I be quiet for now
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ric 163? from what I can see on this web page.


I take it you are looking at Gallienus and the RIC number is correct. Getting better.
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 Posted 10/25/2011  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no your doing good jangofett, I have to run to the post office soon so go ahead and take over.
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the next coin is a constantius II campgates with open doors and 4 turrets.
CONSTAN_TINVS AVG
Laureate head right
VIRTV_S AVGG,RIC VII, 291?


Spot on. Sorry I missed your answer earlier.
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Have a bit of a question. Say you have a coin with SMKD as the mintmark, and it matches the coin to a certain RIC # (lets say 120). RIC 119 coin is almost the same coin but has SMKG as it's mintmark. Thing is, RIC 119's bust looks exactly like the bust on your coin, but your coin is RIC 120. Even though the bust may be somewhat different, would it still be RIC 120?

BTW thanks jessvc1
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We have to remember that even with coins made at the same mint, there were different die cutters at each and within each shop. So, busts will vary even from shop to shop within the same mint.

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Oh ok I understand. Because with your Constantine I RIC 73, I have that same one (CONSH, same kind of bust) that I posted a while back, maybe you remember, and I saw that 73 (CONSH) had a different-looking bust than my coin. Then I checked RIC 59 and saw that the bust was exactly the same, but the mintmark was not (CONSA). But I attributed it anyways as RIC 59. So when you said that yours was RIC 73, I got a bit confused. But I understand now.
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I was just wondering is there a good book to buy on these coins?
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I was just wondering is there a good book to buy on these coins?


Yes, there a a lot of good books, but I'm going to go up against conventional wisdom and say that I find searching on-line to be easy and fast. I have a set of RIC and a set of Sear, plus others, and I rarely go to them any more. I have books entitled Dictionary of Roman Coin Inscriptions, Legions of Imperial Rome, Reading and Dating Roman Imperial Coins, A Price Guide to Roman Base metal Coins and a Price Guide to Roman Silver Coins. Plus on and on. These books were my only guides prior to the internet so I had to have them. But believe me when I say it is much quicker and more complete for me to check the internet.

I wouldn't give up my books, but I find I'm relying more and more on this internet thing (even though its probably only a fad ).

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I agree 100% with JW except that I am firmly of the opinion that anyone who feels it is necessary to have and quote catalog numbers should own and use that book itself rather than relying on salvaging numbers off websites or other books. The advantage of online resources that you can question your sources and expect someone else to point out when there is a matter of dispute. In some cases this will reveal where there has been an update since one standard reference was published; in others it will point out where you need to do your own research to decide which of the two responses received is more likely to be correct. No numismatic book, no author and no online source should be accepted as gospel truth but should be used to guide you to understanding.
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