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The Pm Trio: The Set Of Coins I'll Keep Till I Die

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Would be neat to see a proof palladium maple, but I've always thought of it as the duller cousin of platinum. I've always just collected 1oz silver rounds and the odd, tiny, gold bars, but just couldn't pass this one up. Would have to shed a few pounds, almost literally, in silver (before the missus notices) to make up for it.

Indeed it would. I am hoping that the US Mint produces such coins at some point in the not too distant future. I have heard that they are studying the feasibility of producing a palladium coin but haven't heard anything on whether or not this will include fractional ounce or proof coins. It would be very cool if they did.
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 Posted 11/08/2011  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverBug to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the problem with palladium coin is that it has tax in canada, despite it's 9995 pure
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my favorite palladium coin The-Pm-Trio:-The-Set-Of-Coins-I'll-Keep-Till-I-Die
4 in total, showing the circular motion of the constellations for each season around the north star. I can get them for ~$1200 each at a local coin store but couldn't pull the trigger
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gorgeous set
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the problem with palladium coin is that it has tax in canada, despite it's 9995 pure

Is that also the case for silver and gold? If not, any idea why.
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I don't remember if I paid taxes for the one palladium maple I own...
I suppose palladium is considered industrial while gold and silver precious / money.
Only pure gold and pure silver are tax exempt. Sterling silver and 18k gold, for example, are taxable in Canada. The rationale I heard is that the latter can be used in products other than bullion.
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Only pure gold and pure silver are tax exempt. Sterling silver and 18k gold, for example, are taxable in Canada. The rationale I heard is that the latter can be used in products other than bullion.

That could be it. Also, some products that are considered "luxury items" often have different tax treatment than similar but cheaper products that are not considered luxury items. Shrug.
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What a lovely set of Maples. I would love to own such a set for myself.
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Palladium Big and Little Bear Constellations $4,299 tax exempt
http://colonialacres.com/products.p...27054&ref=49

someone pulled the trigger
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Yikes! The high-priced spread for sure. $4300 is quite a lot for 4 coins. But, who knows what these will be worth in the future? They could be worth much more or less than this. If the production is as low as they say, then being worth more seems likely.
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It's not too too bad I don't feel. Commemoratives coming out of the Royal Canadian Mint usually sell for at least double melt value. Palladium isn't doing so well but 4300 for 4oz is still less than melt value. If theses were palladium maples then heck no.
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Palladium isn't doing so well but 4300 for 4oz is still less than melt value.

I must be missing something here. Is this the same palladium that the Kitco market quotes page shows as closing at $615 to the ounce today? If so, then $4300 worth should be a lot closer to 7 ounces than it is to 4 ounces.
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I must be missing something here. Is this the same palladium that the Kitco market quotes page shows as closing at $615 to the ounce today? If so, then $4300 worth should be a lot closer to 7 ounces than it is to 4 ounces.


it's RCM's palladium, usually sells more than double the price of Kitco's, that's why poboxw said still under RCM's melt value
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!
my bad, I meant less than double melt. So, as a commemorative coin from RCM, not too bad.
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All I can do is echo everyone response so far, Great set! Really looks like they take a little more pride in the coinage they mint in Canada!
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