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Aluminum Play Token | German-Made Play Money

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I have an aluminum coin. about 22 mm (or 0.86 inch) in diameter.
One side shows the bust of a native American in headdress facing left, with LIBERTY above and 1913 below followed to the right by GERMANY.
The other side shows a bird similar to the normal Peace dollar, except that here it's facing left, with UNITED STATES OF AMERICA above and DOLLAR below. In the field to the left is PLURIBUS UNUM; to the right, IN GOD WE TRUST.

I really would like to know what this is whether it's a play token, gambling counter, or something else - what ?

Also, who issued it and when ?

Finally have any been offered for sale and at what cost ?

It weighs about 2 grams.

Aluminum-Play-Token-|-German-Made-Play-Money

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 Posted 11/13/2011  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The design is common enough, I've just bought one in another metal designed as a fob for the grand sum of £0.99:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/32079080921....m1439.l2649

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Bob,
Thanks. It's interesting that yours has a place to attach a chain. Mine hasn't and I can't see any damage to suggest it's been detached.

What's the significance of 1913 and Germany ?
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wasn't 1913 the start of WWI?
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 Posted 11/13/2011  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, World War I started on 28 July 1914.
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Prior to WWI, Germany (specifically, Nuremberg) was the world leader of play money manufacturing, as the last descendants of the old Nuremberg jeton-making families branched out to capture the world market. Sales in Britain seemed to be particularly effective.
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 Posted 11/13/2011  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sap,
That's a good point, but why Germany on a USA dollar counter.
I feel there must have been some connection between Germany, USA, and 1913 for them to put this on the same counter.

The 5 dollar one that Bob bought also has Germany 1913.
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"Germany" is there to indicate "Made in Germany". The spelling "Germany" indicates the target market was English-speakers. I would assume they were made in Nuremberg with a USA-derived design, then sold in Britain where folks wouldn't have known that American dollar coins didn't actually look like that. 1913 may be the date the dies for these toy coins were made (but not necessarily the actual date of production). It seems reasonable in this case to be close enough to be the actual date of production, since production and export to Britain would have ceased when the war began, and after the war the German token-makers were all kept busy making notgeld tokens.
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Sap,
Thanks for the detailed explanation.

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I've got one of those and it has a place to attach a chain
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I know this thread is long dead, but I have just picked up one of these in steel. A search on Google turns up two useful links:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces56961.html
and
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic22354.html
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