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These were in a lot I was bidding on but because they were in such poor condition I paid them little attention. I've not done any research as yet but wondered if anyone else could spot anything and maybe point me in the right direction. Coin 1:  The bust is quite stylistic so maybe someone can recognise it Reasonable detail on the reserve  26mm 17.85 grams and 4mm thick!Coin 2:  I can see the end of the legend before it breaks on the obverse 'VS AVG', maybe 'PIVS' after the break? Sadly it looks like its been through some sort of industrial farm machinery 26mm 10.55 grams 2mm thick - first thoughts were Hadrian or someone around there in timeAny guidance gladly accepted - I've not seen many coins the size and weight of the first one. Edited by bobbyhelmet
11/17/2011 12:14 pm
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I'm thinking Commodus for the first coin with possibly Felicitas reverse. Take a look at RIC 308b. Its just a thought at this point. I'm certainly not positive on this yet. I'm still looking.
The second coin I have no idea. Sorry buddy
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Cheers mate - its a starting point at least, more than I had 10 mins ago.
I'm leaning towards Commodus for the second one too, maybe Ant Pius, I get the feeling this could take a while and not end successfully!
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I would say Lucius Verus could be a possibility also.
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Hi surely commodus or maybe marcus aurelius as caesar for the first.
On the second as you told I can read pivs but it doesn't seem antoninus to me....
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In studying the second coin, it would appear the obverse legend is "_SAVG (break) PIVS. This makes me believe the second coin is probably Antonius Pius as many of his legends are "ANTONINVSAVGPIVS-------(PPTRP) (COS III) etc. Just as examples, take a look at these sestertius: http://wildwinds.com/coins/ric/anto...RIC_0541.jpghttp://wildwinds.com/coins/ric/anto..._0563a.2.jpgI'm not saying this is your coin, not by a long shot. But the obverse legend fits along with the bust type. Can you make out anything on the reverse? |
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I think your right JW - I have been leaning this way for the second coin too - your second link is very close and was saved in my favourites while I was looking.
More details can be seen in hand and when the coin is wet and I think the reverse is a female figure holding a snake and sacrificing over an alter. It has 'S ?' or 'C ?' in the fields but looking at all examples its more likely 'S C'.
I think echizento and giano are correct about the first one, Commodus or LV - more searching is needed though!
I'll keep you informed and see if I can take some betters pictures - let me know if you stumble across anything interesting!
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looking forward to updates once you receive the coins - the curly hair on the 1st one looks very familiar, but I can't place it
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On the Antonius Pius, take a look at RIC 677. Maybe?
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That looks a lot better after some soaking. Was that done in olive oil?
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Very close JW - I've had a head-battering hour looking and investigating about a dozen 'close' coins - I thought I had a hit but it turned out to be a Sestertius rather than what I think my coin is, a Dupondius (BTW had no idea this stood for '2 pounder'!). I think I now have it - here is a tweaked, drawn-on picture, initally the 'S' made it look like a large patera rather than a snake to the left and a much smaller patera in hand:  Obv: ANTONINVS AVG - PIVS PP TR P XVI, Radiate right.Rev: SALVS - AVG COS IIII, Salus standing left,holding patera, feeding snake coiled around altar and holding sceptre.RIC 909a - Rome 152-153 - DupondiusHere is a better quality example:  I'd forgotten how much fun these puzzles could be (at least when they end succesfully)  Edited by bobbyhelmet
11/23/2011 10:49 am
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That looks a lot better after some soaking. Was that done in olive oil? Just in distilled water Gil-galad, I gently warm and cool it to speed the process up and rub with toothbrush every now and then. |
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" a Dupondius (BTW had no idea this stood for '2 pounder'!)." If you go back to the beginning of Republican coins the common copper as weighed one Roman pound. There was a very rare two as piece called dupondius. If anyone has one I would bet the British museum collection would have the best and sure enough weighing in at 600g.:  Note the II denomination mark. 600g. is just a bit light since two Roman pounds should be more like 645g. You just can't trust anyone. Don't drop one on your toe. Edited by dougsmit
11/23/2011 11:14 am
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600g That would hurt! |
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